• mozen88@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    The stories from granit about his abuse here should have been a wake up call for a lot of people, but I guess we turn around and do it to the next guy instead

  • MyrkuriYT@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Hysterical that this sub has given Havertz anything lower than a 9.37 for this game.

    • tipzyt@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I cant believe it. He has 2 G/A this season (1 pity penalty) but his off ball movement and work rate contributes at least 35 G/A. TBH he is our best and most impactful player, whoever rated him this low are blinded by hate and don’t know Football

  • BigVegetable289@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Thanks for doing this OP! Can you consider bringing in the NR score that we had last season? Feel weird about giving a score to someone who only played a few mins.

  • XxAbsurdumxX@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I get that Havertz didn’t have an amazing game, but is his rating coloured a bit by the general feeling towards him? I don’t recall him having a bad game at all?

    • loop_1001@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      A lot of the attacks broke down when the ball reached him

      Saka, leo, jorgi all were one touching near the D and the when the ball reached him, burnley nicked it off him

      • _ISD_14@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Yeah that happened a lot

        Also he was really poor at attacking the crosses. Forget the one he missed I’m glad he was there to get the open header there was so many that he just didn’t get near… thankfully Saka did it instead. That’s the kind of assist he needs to be getting if we’re gonna play a 6ft4 player at CAM. He’s never gonna be good in tight areas at that height

    • FluxAura@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      No, if anything, the clueless fans here inflate his score.

      Almost every single game, with very few exceptions, he’s the worst Arsenal player on the pitch.

      • OnlineMarketingBoii@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I mean if you really want to have the discussion, than you could argue that Saka and Tomiyasu were both worse than Havertz.

        Both played fine, but Havertz was better, and consistantly making good runs and giving good passes.

        But Saka and Tomi are two of the most loved players on this sub, so you won’t hear it. Rightfully so by the way, I love them both as well.

        Thing is, Tomi had a stinker for the goal we conceded. He also didn’t do many other things exceptionelly well. Just a solid game, with one major mistake leading to a goal.

        Saka was quiet all game, but he had an assist, so I guess that evens out.

        Havertz was the reason that our attacking play had some movement towards it. When he got subbed off, the attacking play completely stopped

        • _ISD_14@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          This hurt my brain

          I’m not even gonna discuss Saka, who’s been quite rightly called out for being off form recently but he he was good this game

          This is a clear example of this Havertz delusion hypocrisy… you all say people slander Havertz just because he missed a sitter but then you’ll say Tomiyasu for that one instance in the same breath

          Should he have done better? Yes but he had 5 1v1s with Koleosho who is a absolute menace and he had to basically push him over to get past. And even then Tomi has the second lowest score despite dealing with Burnley’s biggest threat. Do I think that means there is a agenda for or against him? No a lot of people actually gave up on Tomi but he’s proven them wrong and Havertz would get the same love if he did too

    • MajesticMongoose@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      He got a pretty average score for a pretty average performance. Someone has to get the worst rating. It’s usually him because he’s usually our worst player.

    • tipzyt@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Once again who was worse than him this game? Deserved a 6-6.5 again today tbh and if Arteta is taking him off then you know he didnt play well

    • _ISD_14@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Raya made a really good save and made a really good defence splitting pass that led to a chance for Trossard but he’s always one of the lower rated players. No one mentions it though

      Havertz gets voted lowest every game but there’s a comment mentioning it everytime and any questioning of Kai ends in loss of downvotes so if anything his contributions are overrated on here not the other way round

      • tiern1@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        And like clockwork you’ve 36 comments in the thread all about Havertz

  • blackandwhitedash@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I always keep meaning to ask this but whose body is used for the Saliba photo? 😅

    It makes me laugh every time I see it 😂

  • tipzyt@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Trossard and Zinchenko were well and above everyone else this match, even without their goals, their creativity and ball movement was superb. Glad the scores reflected it

    • IfIWasCoolEnough@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I don’t think I have seen Martinelli and Trossard on the field together that much until this game. Very good chemistry! I would love to see Trossard and Martinelli on the left and Saka and Ø on the right.

      • Dae_su@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        I really hope arteta gives Leo another chance in midfield. Obviously it would need Rice at the 6 and tomi at lb to balance things, but we can see how he can help unlock our attackers. He’s been playing in the midfield for Belgium and been really good, so I’m looking forward to watch him this week.

  • do0gla5@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I’m a bonafide havertz apologist. However, the Burnley game was his worst.

    I’m still a believer though.

    • mozen88@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      No he played really good, almost scored a beauty but had one howler in the beginning so everyone piles on him as usual

  • JustGhostin@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Maybe Raya’s best game so far? Distribution was good, made a couple of really smart saves, nothing he could do about the goal (was a foul on Tomi imo anyway)

  • DeapVally@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Support the team, not useless mercenaries. If people wish to call out Havertz for being bang average, yet again, and expecting far better from our second highest paid player, then they are well within their rights. Mercenaries need to earn respect, and if you feel he isn’t being respected, then there’s a good reason for that. Calling him out won’t make him worse, certainly improved Xhakas game once he got on top of his critics, but making excuses for him definitely won’t make him better!