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This is conflicting for me because on the one hand, this is objectively offside even if it’s by millimeters, and I like this technology for eliminating the human error element.
On the other, the offside rule itself is a bit insane to me these days with VAR—I feel like the spirit of the rule has been lost—this is not giving the attacking player a clear advantage. Yes it’s offside by the law—but for what?
argh i know that its right, like its good that its objective, but it does sortve rub me the wrong way be because the attacking player gained no advantage from being such a small margin offside
There’s a margin of error for the var system, and apparently it’s smaller than millimeters
Just happened in Arsenal-Brentford too. This is not what fans want
I’m fine with it.
Yeah. Fans want technology that makes offsides position a Black and white situation but lets make some grey area, cause you know… Why The fuck not
I always thought you could only be offside if a part of the body you can use to hit the ball was offside.
I thought to be offsides the part of the body that was beyond the last defender was one that could be used to score. Hands, elbows, and forearms can’t be used to score therfore can’t make a player offsides. The hands and arms of all players, including the goalkeepers, are not considered. For the purposes of determining offside, the upper boundary of the arm is in line with the bottom of the armpit.
As long as the system accurate and quick Im completely fine with these.
Sports are better without replay. Change my mind.
It’s harsh but I will never argue against the semi automated offsides. They’re always right. It’s not a bunch of useless cunts drawing lines.
Instances like this isn’t why the offside rule was introduced though. It’s morally wrong for this to be called offside
It has to be an objective decision considering it completely effects the game
Na, not having it. You can’t honestly think looking at that image this is deserving of an offside decision. This sport is fast becoming a referee-centric enterprise and it’s sad to see fuck all pushback from fans. In fact, people actually defend shit like this
It does beg the question what do we want from our football. I like how it’s objective but I would rather a ref got it wrong and let the flow of the game continue frankly.
No one would have argued over a call as tight as this this before VAR right or wrong.
The line has to be drawn somewhere though and regardless of where that is, you will always have these calls 1mm over the line
Why doesn’t the PL use them?
The useless cunts drawing lines don’t want to lose their jobs.
The useless cunts could still keep missing fouls without having to draw the lines.
You can’t be offside with a mon goal scoring part of your body though, right?
I had the same thought but then I looked closely at the feet. I think that’s the call
these cgi simulations, what are they based on?
do they take camera angles and kind of average it out?
it boggles my mind that these decisions are based on camera angles which at 23.98 framerate will always have motion blur
hockey struggles with this as well.
tennis made a move to high framerate cameras, i think?
The automated VAR cameras (12 in total) shoot at 50fps.
maybe they should give up on the cameras idea, and build pressure sensors into the pitch :)
how do you account for heads, shoulders, knees with pressure sensors?
Not to mention eyes and ears and mouth and nose.
Genuinely don’t think this is how the rule was intended to be interpreted. Should really just use feet because this looks like a perfectly timed run to me.
Are we sure the system is this accurate? I don’t know how it could be without, like, 970 cameras.
You don’t, but scientists who made it and high school students interested in the technology are able to easily comprehend it
To be fair. With modern AI. We could completely eliminate referees between completely in a few years. Just need enough camera angles with high fps. Would fans go for that I wonder?
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