I run gigabyte B450M with Ryzen 7 5800x3d and i want to upgrade my Ram into DDR5 , can I upgrade into a newer mobo? My cpu is Am4 socket but can i use it on am5 socket or i am fucked and i cannot upgrade into DDR5? PS: My gpu is m RedDevil 6700xt
DDR5 is AM5 only, so you need to switch to an AM5 processor too. If you already have a 5800X3D, you basically have no need to upgrade for awhile, unless you have shit RAM at like 2666M/T or something
there’s also been rumors about a 5500x3D earlier last week
Intel once created LGA775. Now AMD did AM4.
Might be interesting depending on the cost but the 5800X3D is so expensive in Australia that the 7800X3D is going for basically the same price… Might just be better ditching my AM4 or settling for a 5700X instead…
Same in Norway. I wanted to Get a 5800x3d because the itx motherboards Are much cheaper. It’s a 400 euro part here, which is completely mad.
yea but getting a 7800x3d also means upgrading your whole system except the gpu?
Not whole system, just motherboard and RAM. I could get some cheapies for ~$175 USD so it’s no a massive difference.
You would need a new cpu cooler unless your current one is am5 compatible.
You can use AM4 compatible coolers on AM5.
I’d need a new one regardless if I went with a 5800X3D, 5700X or 7800X3D so it’s not an extra cost in comparison. The only exception is if I were to go with a 7600.
Except the GPU, Storage, PSU and chassis. So only half.
Please release this and the 5500X3D in europe 🙃
If the 5500x3d is just around 5600x in price then it would be good deal. Its not for everyone since its only at 4Ghz top speed which would make the FPS limit around 120 or 144?
4Ghz top speed which would make the FPS limit around 120 or 144?
Max frame rate will be game dependent. Plenty of old 2GHz processors can do 144 on old games, and plenty of 4GHz processors can’t do 100 hz in some demanding new games.
Darn I’ve been so frustrated for buying 5600 and not 5800x3d, but maybe this will be good
Damn, amazing that AM4 is still getting new CPUs 6 1/2 years after launch. My B350 board I got on launch day is still going strong with a 5800X for my dad’s Flight Simulator system. Hopefully AM5 has a similar lifespan!
That’s awesome. Sadly my 370 board does not like booting with more than one stick of ram :(
Hate it when that type of shit happens with mobos. I have an intel board that wont boot in any other configuration but the Ram in the first and second slot -__- Not my main board, but one that I have. it’s a really premium board too so its a shame.
I suspect we’ll see the same for AM5, AMD is just fudging with the 2025 date in case the engineering doesn’t allow it. It’s pretty profitable for AMD, having a userbase like that.
So are 5800X 3D & 5700X 3D good enough to push near 4090 GPU performance levels without being a big bottleneck?
Look at some of the recent reviews of the 14th gen Intel. They still include 5800X3D in the charts, and it definitely punches above its weight. No regrets as an owner…
yep it beats the 14th gen intel more often than id expect for such an old chip
It launched a year and a half ago…
Also Intel’s 14th gen is just 12th gen ++
Depends on your resolution/refresh rate target. I have 5800x3d and 4090 with LG C2 (4k/120hz), and I am pretty much never CPU bottlenecked.
Same setup and same result. 5800X3D is a good match for a 4090. And the two are very power efficient per fps. So if you want to keep the heat down at a certain target fps at 4k, then you can’t do much better than this combo assuming you require a 4090s power to begin with.
man I wish the 5800x3d would drop in price a bit more
So do I, but agree with other reply that likely not due to tiered pricing. I regret not jumping on 290 and will probably pull the trigger next time it’s under 300.
Micro Center still has a few in stock at 280 depending on your location.
The difference between X and X3D?
X3D has stupid amounts of cache, which is amazing for gaming. Some games can get a 40% boost in average fps, and almost games will get better 1 & 0.1% lows
I can see only going for 5800x3d in about 2-3 years from my 5600.
Sounds like a good plan. The 5700x3D may be a better value as the highest end processor for a socket tends to be oddly expensive.
lmao AMD is really using every last bit of those leftover wafers huh
If they can produce something that can sell then why not? Business 101.
At this point AM4 will live on for longer than AM5 lmao
Eh, not really, but this does suggest that AM5 will get support significantly into the life of AM6.
I still wouldn’t bet on it…there is a lot that goes into it. We need to see how it performs if its true. Honestly I don’t want to have a mobo for like 10 years, it might run a new CPU but the features will start to show its age by then. I will be happy with 2 gens a board with maybe a 3rd as a option if you still are happy with the board and want to get a little more out of it. At that point its time to move on.
which will be wonderful for budget upgraders/builders then just as this is now. i really hope it rings true. near top end performance for budget money is something intel cant touch
AM4 is like an early 2000’s camry. It’s not flashy but it ages like fine wine.
My 377,000 mileage 2001 Camry would still be going strong today if the dude who bought it didn’t total it drunk driving. Honestly such a good car
As an owner of a similar Camry, fuck that guy. Anyone mistreating a Camry has a special place in hell.
Well. 3DvCache is flashy enough.
AM4 has to be the GOATed platform of all time at this point. I can’t believe the mileage I’ve got out of my shitty mobo haha.
I have a friend who has a MSI b450m bazooka that was in his prebuilt pc he got for Christmas in 2018. He still has it with his 5600x and he literally has some cut up version of the BIOS bc the mobo doesn’t have enough memory or smth? I’m not sure the exact details.
If it works it works haha
Someone in 2017: “I’ll get a b350 motherboard and a cheap Polaris GPU, by the time they’re obsolete I’ll have enough saved to upgrade.”
That same person in 2026: “Okay, time to try to build a $20,000 gaming PC…”
Not far from my path.
X370 when released, kept the mobo becauae no $$$ for cpu. Focused on work and forgot about it until 2700x came out. Used that… paired with my olde 1070 which i got from launch.
Then took the 3080 for gpu upgrade to drive 1440p UW. Found the 2700x struggling. Upgraded to 5800x3d this year as a birthday treat.
Now gonna change the mobo for a b550. The x370 is going to my wife rig with the 1070. Will be a home lab and clan server for games as well.
AM4… thank you AMD… Goat of goatses of all goat time platform. Respect!
Except cheap Polaris was out of stock. Rest checks out. I’m nearly there.
I’m upgrading from a 2600 to the 5800x3d on my day off this Wednesday. Super pumped, can’t wait to see what the hype is about!
The website says it recommends liquid cooling for optimal performance.
Went from a 2700x to the 5800x3d myself, it’s a veeeeery nice jump.
1700x to 5800x3d here. Gosh dang, feeling those generational leaps in a rush make holding out on upgrades so long worth it.
This is pretty amazing. My motherboard doesnt officially support the older cpus but everyone ive tried in it works. Currently running a 2700x in it. Will likely upgrade to this or the 5800x3d next year.
Being able to use this board for so many generations is awesome.
looking to do the same myself as I bought a 7900xt
If you are playing WoW then go for the AM5 of the X3D versions. The 5800X3D is a bottleneck for that gpu. With maybe 14%.
bro really said a 5800x3d is a bottleneck to a 7900xt…
Those sites aren’t to be taken as gospel, they are there to give you a general idea, but they are grossly overestimated. With that being said, there are bottlenecks in any system. Even the highest tier gaming computers in the world have bottlenecks. The real matter is determining how bad the bottleneck is and deciding what parts to upgrade. There is always something holding back the maximum potential of any system. This is why channels such as gamers nexus, when they test a GPU, they get the highest tier CPU in order to turn the GPU into the bottleneck (in order to see what it’s absolute maximum performance is with NO other bottlenecks holding it back).
The IP upgrade alone will feel so good, my wife moved from 3700x to 5600x and says thr performance gains in windows and in games like NMS and gw2 were obvious and that everything feels much better.
I moved my 5600x to the 5800x3d because I also got a 7900xt, gameplay has felt immensely better, I’m extremely satisfied
and there are probably people who went from 1400x to 5800x3d out there too… amazing
Nice did it for 2600 to a 5600, definitely a bump in multi tasking.
Long live AM4.
Make sure you update your mobo bios!
AM4 has been incredible, but I have fond memories of Socket 7. Supported everything from the OG Pentium all the way to 300MHz variants. And it worked with CPUs from Intel, IBM/Cyrix, AMD, and WinChip.
GOATed platform of all time
That’s what the A and T stand for.
I know what I said.
It will never RIP in peace.
lol out loud
smh my head
My face when I MFW a reddit comment.
Then comes the 5800X3D with its cache (And the rumoured 5700X3D). You can compare that to a riced out Camry or any Lexus
Damn, is your flair still accurate?
I’m also still rocking a 1600 and an RX580. But I just ordered a 5600X to get my AM4-setup going for maybe 2 or 3 more years!
5600x is a very good processor, it will be a night and day difference for you.
yep, and while am5 or am6 is my next upgrade depending on how long my 5800x3d lasts and how good the last am5 3d chip is compared to the first am6 one. am4 is just amzing for budget builders and upgraders atm.
I still use an am4 x470 gaming plus MB. Serves me so well. Really is a good board.
Comme on give us the 5900x3d or 5950x3d
That would be my dream upgrade path
After this point I guess AMD doesn’t want to put extra expensive Zen 3 CPUs on AM4… Pricing would be an issue because the R9 5950X is at 434$ (Amazon) while the R9 7900X is at 388$ (Amazon), so unless they launch a R9 5950X3D for 400$ I don’t see a reason to launch it (Besides needing some workarounds like Game Bar to make it work alright).
I mean……I’d upgrade from a 5800x3D to a 5950X3D especially for the productivity without have to do a full system jump if the numbers are right.
Yeah with a 5800x i feel like the 5800x3d is kind of a sidegrade, but if they release a 5950x3d at competitive pricing i might be tempted to spend more in am4.
I went from 5800x to 5800x3d and have zero regrets, I felt it was a significant upgrade.
I’m in that camp, wondering if it’s worth making the jump. I don’t play any strategy games or sim
if you already own a 5800x it’s not worth it to spend 300$ on a 5800x3d. If you have 300$ spare, then sell your platform and buy into AM5.
I went from a 3700x to 5800x3D and that was a big difference. I actually just recently discovered the cause of my heating too.
They will never release a 5950X3D there was a prototype floating around and the dual ccd cause issues with the gains you see from the cache.
So it was axed.
Those issues are present on the 7900x3d and 7950x3d their driver “fixes it” and their server chips have vcache on all the ccd and work fine.
For purely gaming those chips will always run into issues but for a power user they would work just fine
put two caches on it
Not only that but these chips are probably coming from 5800X3D that don’t make it, so they can use them as lower core count chips… Can’t make them have more.
Another thing you sometimes see here when people bring this up is that AMD supposedly DID try to make a 5900x3d or 5950x3d but they ran into issues that made it impractical and so it was abandoned.
IIRC, doesn’t AMD have a very unique “5900X3D” with the V-Cache on both CCDs? I think they showed it in GN’s video when they went on the lab tour.
The one in the GN video was a dual V-Cache 5950X3D. 192MB of total L3 and the full 16C/32T.
Sign me the hell up! One of the biggest issues with the 5950x was power draw coming up against most am4 Mobo limits. X3d tends to be geared for lower power because of cooling reasons - it might just work!
X3D has no issues with cooling. I wish that myth would die. The extra cache is over the existing L3 cache, not the cores. The cores have exactly the same amount of inert material above them as with the non-X3D chips.
The chips are lower power solely because of the voltage cap, and any additional binning that said cap allows.
Yes they did. Presumably it’s also the same chip that was in the initial vcache demo on stage
I would 100% upgrade from my 5800X3D if AMD releases the 5950X3D… gimme gimme
I just bought a 5600X, would the 5500X3D be a gaming performance upgrade?
Possibly but for about double the cost…
I paid $219 CAD for the 5600X, maybe I’ll just wait and get a 5800X in the future