• Dwtc37@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    They should have the players who received medical treatment taken off for 5 minutes as well , might cut down the amount of fake injuries.

  • MaraPlayz@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Nah this is just stupid. Refs are shit with 2 cards what they gonna do with 3?!?!

  • BrakumOne@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Yes please. Tactical fouls shouldn’t exist. Fouls have punishments to discourage them. If the benefit outweighs the downside then the punishment is too mild. It’s basically legal cheating.

  • Latter-Towel8927@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I like the idea. In practice the introduction of the orange will reduce the numbers of times a red card is issued, as the referees will have a mechanism to punish a team a ‘little’ bit without altering the entire game. If this was brought in red cards would only be used for clear intentionally dangerous tackles, or clear fouls to stop a goal scoring opportunity.

    The comments here are also why the referees are on a hiding to nothing. Some of you want subjective refereeing, but will cry when the ‘subjective’ reason does not go your teams way, and will find all the other examples where the foul was/was not called. Others wants refereeing to to letter of the law, but cry when this goes against your team (eg the Curtis Jones tackle).

  • MarcusZXR@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Just make it two yellows equals a sin bin. A third is a sending off. This will only add to the confusion.

  • Present_Lake1941@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Single yellow cards directly do very little to ‘reward or compensate’ the victim -outside of making a player play more cautiously. Those yellows for breaking up a dangerous counter attack mean that the attacking team lose out on a possible dangerous attacking situation. Imo sinbins would be a more apt punishment than the yellow card. Bring it on!

  • DiuhBEETuss@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I think one of the huge challenges here is that culturally, across all sports, we’re moving away from a model of broad trust in officials to be the “fallible but mostly deferred to” arbiters of the rules towards a model of letter of the law perfection that has huge consequences monetarily and emotionally for teams and fans.

    In the old model, particularly in football, refs had to use a lot of discretion in how to manage the game (giving warnings and not yellow carding too early, etc.). This is their mindset and how they’ve been trained whether intentionally or just by cultural forces.

    In the new model, the patience for subjectivity without reasonable explanation is virtually nil. So in order to evolve, they have to both learn how to communicate their reasoning more effectively and they need more tools for game management. For example, ways to give some actual consequences rather than just a stern talking to.

    Of course there will still be quibbles (was that only an orange, should it have been a red, why wasn’t player Y given an orange when player X was for something similar). But overall, it improves the ability of the refs to say, “we handed out a consequence, here was our reasoning. Partisans may not always agree with the decision, feel free to voice that and we’ll continue trying to improve”.

    But continuing to do nothing and hide behind the shield of “you can’t criticize referees” will absolutely not work. I’m all for this kind of experimentation. We as fans will also need to learn how to value incremental progress rather than trashing everything the moment it doesn’t work perfectly.

  • dbills12@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    While everyone is rightly saying this will lead to even more arguments about fouls, the time-wasting during these penalty kills is going to be epic…

  • haziola@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Just get rid of VAR. It has taken a lot of joy out of the game. This is my one boomer take. I couldn’t care less if it technically has improved decisions. Football doesn’t have to follow other sports in everything. Football is unique, let it stay unique.

  • James_Vowles@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I like the idea of a sin bin. Use it for dives, fake fighting and all that sort of crap. Swearing at the ref.