Who Makes the Most Reliable New Cars? - Consumer Reports
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To determine who makes the most reliable new cars, Consumer Reports' latest car reliability survey ranks the brands and reveals how regions compare.
    • FarberBarber@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      I work for enterprise and we have a couple of Pacificas. We had the infotainment system go out on a brand new Pacifica with 200 miles, and we have a 2023 Pacifica that has 10k miles with heated seats that don’t work and a blown speaker 😅

    • Wildcard36qs@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      If you pop over in the Pacifica forums you’ll see an alarmingly increasing number of head gasket issues on lower mileage engines (like 60k miles).

      It sucks because I really like the look of the van and they have good features, but it’s a ticking time bomb.

  • Data_Dealer@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    CR is garbage. VW at the bottom, Mini in the top 3? Would love to see the methodology and sample size that could lead to such crap results.

    • Saskatchewon@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Their subscribers report any issues they’ve had with their cars in a yearly survey. They average around 300,000 surveys returned each year, and cars are scored based on the number of issues per 100 of that particular model for each year. Issues are weighted differently depending on how major they are, with drivetrain issues carrying more weight than a piece of trip coming off, or a blemish in the factory paint for example. Cars of a particular model and model year that don’t receive enough reviews to get a reliable data set don’t have their scores published.

      Mini is scoring well because:

      A) They only have two models.

      B) Those two models share a drivetrain that’s proven to be very reliable. The BMW B38 is a stoute engine, and it’s big brother B48 is used in both the John Cooper Works and the Toyota Supra.

      C) Those two models are mechanically unchanged since 2014. They were in CR’s top ten starting back in 2015 (again, B38 is a great engine) and have had nearly 10 years to iron out everything else.

      Meanwhile, VW is having a genuinely bad time right now. Their score is somewhat unfairly low due to an absurdly large number of older drivers having issues with their centre console and HVAC controls, and that’s warranted to a point. I sat in a new GTI several months ago, and I have never experienced interior controls as badly implemented as that thing. My god it was bad. I’m close friends with a VW parts/tech manager, and he says they are constantly having people in who are having issues with touch screens (they are laggy as fuck to be fair) and haptic controls. Beyond that, according to him, they definitely aren’t 100% out of the woods when it comes to the known water pump problems, leaking sunroofs, and various electrical gremlins aside from the bad touch screens. Lots of faulty window and mirror motors, and apparently a Tiguan that had a gas odometer that would go up as you drove it instead of down.

  • BeNotAfraid2274@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Consumer Reports is bought and paid for. Aside from Toyota and Honda and their affiliated luxury brands, I am not putting any weight in this list. When your company is being served with an enormous class action lawsuit for engines burning oil in massive quantities over several years and multiple models, and you’re in the top half of this list…seems inaccurate.

  • Frubanoid@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Would be nice to see a list separating EV from ICE. I know the Kia EV6 got a 91 or 92 reliability score.

  • Temporary_Party_3378@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I know everybody is one the hype for bmw but also come to think of it, honda has their fair share, mostly the civics seem to last quite some time

      • Frird2008@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        Nah, those engines love oil like I love chicken fried rice 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • 89LSC@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    It’s 2023. Quality control personnel work from home. Nobody makes a reliable product top to bottom, left to right.

    • Chi-Guy86@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Where’s your evidence that most quality control employees in the auto industry work from home?

      • 89LSC@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        If they don’t they might as well be. Build quality is garbage anymore from anybody.

  • The_Crazy_Swede@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Where is suzuki?

    Statistics show that suzuki is cheaper over a 10 year period than Toyota Wich means that they should be at about the same level when it comes to reliability.

    • Drzhivago138@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Suzuki hasn’t sold cars in the US for 10 years…

      Besides that, I don’t follow your logic that a car that’s cheaper to run in a 10-year period means it must also be the most reliable.