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This is extremely vague with zero context.
Right? There’s a lot to criticize the US government for, but I’m pretty sure that this is already how things work. No idea what OP is on about
Why can’t I use explosives to fish?
Why is it illegal to spray people with gasoline?
If my company wants to dump toxins into the daycare, they should. There’s no laws for it.
There are actually laws for all of those FYI.
Lemmy.world isn’t exclusive to the USA, but still yeah I think deregulators are almost always the worst type of politician.
DAMNIT THIS IS MERIKA I SHOULD HAVE A MISSILE LAUNCHER ON THE FRONT YARD BEN WASHINGTON WROTE IT IN THE CONSTITUTION
Laws against victimless crimes come to mind.
Justification is easy. Damn near no one does anything they don’t feel is justified. You may not agree with it, but that doesn’t really matter, because the right people will.
A lot of the most evil shit in history was done by people who felt completely justified in doing it.
Justification is a stupidly low bar.
You’re missing the point. We don’t need to justify to the government why we need to do anything. The government needs to justify to us why it should be prohibited. Feeling justified in your own actions doesn’t come into it.
As for “the most evil shit in history”, it should be extremely easy for the government to justify prohibiting it.
To any reasonable person it is extremely easy to justify prohibiting easy access to firearms. And yet here we are, with mass shootings happening every other day in the US.
US Govt: Y’all shoot a lot of people. Let’s slow this down a bit. Some people: how about I shoot you!?
This is deep. I’m 14 though fyi.
All base no substance
It’s quite literally a founding principle of most modern legal systems but okay.
We’re being sarcastic here right?
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Take cannabis for instance. They’ve ‘justified’ why it has been illegal, it’s just all the reasons were manipulated science and moral bullshit.
Btw, I don’t hate nazis
Tolerance is just an extension of the social contract. Intolerant people are actively violating the social contract and, as such, are not eligible for the benefits such a contract provides. This has been settled law for millennia. Live and let live… or else.
Grade 9 level understanding of anthropology right here
or else you’ll be untolerated?
Methinks your algorithm is too simplistic.
Have you considered using your own judgment?
The problem is ppl disagree on what represents tolerance. i.e: letting a trans compete in sport can be tolerance of gender diversity, while at the same time intolerance of competition rules.
Sometimes one cannot know what is someone fighting intolerance gonna end up doing. Germans had been too tolerant of jewish wealthy elite until nazis had enough of it. Hitler was democratically elected and crimes begun only after that.
This is a racist take that does not reflect historical facts.
So you think nazis decided to genocide out of the blue?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
This was before 1930 bud.
I didn’t know this specifics, but after reading that I’m still waiting further explanation. Each party had own guerilla and wikipedia didn’t mention especially bloody SA behaviour.
2000 SA vs 130 police = deads 15 vs 4 is a pretty normal protest clash outcome. I believe they killed also some more jews, but from that to a concentration camp there is a difference.
letting a trans compete in sport can be tolerance of gender diversity, while at the same time intolerance of competition rules.
Oh no! Won’t somebody think of the rules?!
Rules don’t have rights. People do. When the rules don’t respect people’s rights, then the rules have to change.
Meh, I’m not a Nazi so no offense taken.
It’s kind of like pest control. I don’t hate termites. I just can’t have them tearing up my home, so they have to be exterminated.
How is this relevant to the post
That’s just something the ignorant say
If you try to get rid of intolerance then you will find they out number you and it will lead to a more intolerant society
You have to limit the ability for it to spread by expanding education and publicly engage with them to challenge their ideas so that others can see the faults in their logic
The worst thing you can do is force them into their own communities, something social media promotes, because then intolerance grows
publicly engage with them to challenge their ideas so that others can see the faults in their logic
Yes, but you want to be careful you’re not lending legitimacy to their movement, either. If it’s a fringe, wacko idea, it shouldn’t be on NBC.
But yeah, inoculating people against the kinds of arguments they make is good work.
Their ideas are crafted to justify their emotions, just like yours and mine.
Better to address their emotions. Get them relaxed, peaceful, high. And suddenly their ideas change automatically. Their behavior too.
You’re right of course. These people have one uniting feature and it is their utter lack of sophisticated emotional intelligence.
Intolerance is an expression of anger. So are a lot of other bad behaviors. Anger always finds a way.
Get rid of the anger and you get rid of the intolerance.
This is actually what Karl Popper said if you read the entire quote. This comic cut out that part.
You can’t go running around with feces all over your body and hug strangers, OP, it’s not hygienic.
Boom. Justification. OP’s request is satisfied.
You fool, I’m not a representative of the government. Ha, request not satisfied.
Prove it
Source?
Bioterrorism covers this pretty well.
Did you read the meme though?
Yes, and when you Google Bioterrorism you’ll get all the justifications as to why you shouldn’t.
That’s true, but I don’t think anyone is serious enough about it to need or want to do that.
Just existing is not a crime, even if you’re just casually spreading disease
Well that’s one hell of a joke alright. Hardly probable or even provable in today’s world.
Isn’t it inherently cringe to claim your own things based?
You think this is OC? You must be new here.
Of course, OP even went through the effort of making it all blurry so it looked like it was recycled content! /s
Uhhhh… isnt this how it already works?
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See also: the ninth amendment.
Justifications are easy, though.
Less so when you have to persuade other people that the justification is valid.
Isnt the meme basically “prove my justifications are invalid, cause I feel I’m always right and the government is always wrong” though?
Yes, government action needs to have publicly, rather than personally, justifiable reasons for their actions. But that’s just as true of people, most especially when their actions effect many others.
No, it’s not. At least not unless you’re taking a very uncharitable interpretation of what it’s saying and overlooking an obvious interpretation that’s much more reasonable. It’s saying the government shouldn’t be presumed right just because it’s the government. Governments are capable of being right, and they usually are right about a lot of things, but they need to be kept accountable in cases where they’re not.
And people for the most part don’t need to prove any justifications for their actions are valid, because most of their actions don’t require justifications in the first place. Like, what’s your justification for positing on Lemmy? Do you actually believe you need one?
Agreed. Sometimes the government simply oversteps the mark and just doesn’t understand what’s happening, just imagine how the USA got the crappy reputation of arms dealer, and consider that some people in Congress would probably ask not to look at the papers or the history because they know that it would make them feel dumber
Unless it’s on social media (like Lemmy). Then it’s the reverse. Because (despite the fact that it’s composed entirely of public conversations) it’s private property.
I will do all that I can to crumple a world where “if it is not required it is forbidden” exists; this I swear to you all.
Clothes. Done. You wear most of your clothes to be presentable according to regulation, or to be comfortable, ask yourself if anybody went to a gay bar or a sauna, would they not prefer a towel if it were not for pockets?
Maybe this is just bait, but this is already how it works. I’ll go over US law, but other countries likely have similar processes.
Legislation needs to have justification for restricting people, or it gets overturned when challenged. This is because it would fail the strict scrutiny test, making it unconstitutional. It needs to be “narrowly tailored” to a “legitimate government interest” to pass. In other words, it needs to be focussed on addressing a problem the government acknowledges some responsibility to solve, and do so in a way that doesn’t cause undue restrictions beyond that goal.
Creating a law isn’t an easy process, so they are made with purpose. That doesn’t mean every law is a good law, but that’s why we have these processes for reform after all. Sometimes you have old nonesense laws remain, but that is typically because they are unenforced or too detached from modern life for anyone to care to remove them.
