• Facebones@reddthat.com
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    That’s literally the whole point. I actually had a functional (as functional as it can be) conversation with one of these far right “Science is fake and evil blahblah” people recently, she outright said it.

    ^(paraphrased as fuck)

    “So you think we should not know anything about how the world around us works, or have any access to information except for the whims of some arbitrary pastor?”

    “That is our natural state, Adam and Eve knew nothing and they lived in bliss. Eve ate the apple and doomed us to the misery of knowledge”

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      You can learn a lot about a religion by the stories they teach. In Christianity:

      • Adam and Eve: Ignorance is bliss, obey Yahweh no matter what
      • The story of Abraham: If God tells you to horrible things like kill your son you’d better fucking do it unquestioningly
      • Job: Even if Yahweh makes you suffer miserably for a gentleman’s bet with Satan, you’d better still praise and obey him
      • Noah: God will murder everyone on earth if you displease him
      • Tower of Babel: don’t get too big for your britches or try to unify different societies linguistically and create great works, God hates this, stay fractured and obedient
      • Doubting Thomas: skepticism is bad, suspend that disbelief

      The men who claim to speak for gods teach stories about how you’d better obey and not dissent or question their gods, usually to children before they learn to think critically.

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        I really think even outside of religious circles that’s the problem with the right. This obsession with “thinking is hard” mentalities. I can’t even send an article about something to some people, completely unrelated to politics, without being accused of being political because it has more words than a Facebook meme.

        EDIT: I had to cut a conservative friend out of my life recently, and a month or two before that he literally shushed me at his house and told me I was being too political before immediately talking about guns for 30 minutes. My topic?

        Busses and bike lanes. Just…give bikers a separated space instead of a sliver on the edge and that I ride the bus so it’d be pretty cool if that worked better.

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          It’s funny. I’ve had more republicans stop telling about stuff other republicans are doing…

          … because it makes them uncomfortable.

          Okay, but you know what makes more people uncomfortable? All this bullshit being done by a political party they vote for.

          If that makes you uncomfortable… maybe don’t vote for them…

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      Rebuttal: “You actually know about Adam and Eve? Like, you have knowledge of it? That’s pretty evil, ngl.”

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      To be fair there is bliss in ignorance. You can happily go about your life without a care right up till the repercussions force themselves upon you. For example, climate change. People made billions of dollars without considering the environment blissfully, and they will continue right up to the point that the air is unbreathable and the water is undrinkable. There is no bliss in realizing your demise, but to the ignorant these heatwaves are just a justification for their decision to buy a boat.

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    Yes. That’s correct. They accidentally came to the proper conclusion.

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    This is literally what my Christian friend said to me when I got into university.

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    It’s not like they want us to be stupid, they just want us to be stupid. If you’re stupid, you don’t ask questions.

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    In other words you have to be ignorant in order to believe in their religion. That’s what I call a red flag.

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    God gave us these brains to hate not to learn!

    We have developed regions of the brain to help aim!

    Read the Bible damnit! How many times does God require us to stone people?

    The brain is for aiming rocks that God wants you to throw and it has the capacity to reason so you can use mental gymnastics to make yourself feel like a Good Person™!

    Damn atheists! :P

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    Of course they want us to be stupid. Stupid people are easier to mislead and manipulate. Why do you think the Republicans have been at war with the education system for the last 40+ years?

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    If god existed and his presence was evident in the world, then the more you learn the more you’d understand and accept him.

    But they know that’s bullshit so they go for this strategy instead.

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      This is why they hate psychedelics with a passion. Psychadellics enable people to get in contact with god/the universe/ reality and have spiritual experiences in a non-instatutionalized way. Most religions make it very clear the only way you can for real get in contact with God is through the church and and the holy higher ups. Every unofficial way of connecting to god that doesn’t involve the church is actually a trap invented by Satan to deceive. I refuse to tell Christians about my spiritual experiences that converted me from being an athiest anymore because they will literally tell me my experiences are ‘wrong’.