- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
Impressive, I guess, but how many of those 2 million posts have a single comment? If 90% of these are just bots reposting things from Reddit with no further engagement…
Hey! Some of those posts with no comments are me posting pictures of cute bugs that I took! I’m not a bot, I’m just not very interesting.
Well the same page lists comments per day for the same period as 11,083,555. A ratio of 5.27 comments per post seems fine.
Yeah, a ratio means nothing if the bulk of the comments are only on a small portion of the posts. If 90% of the posts have 0 comments and the other 10% have 52.7 comments per post, that’s worth knowing.
That was my initial thought. The bots are working overtime.
What Lemmy needs now more than anything is commenters. If the site is to succeed, it needs robust comment sections.
It does need that, but it also needs dedicated posters for small niche communities that keep posting into the void so that when someone eventually stumbles over they won’t go “aw it’s dead here, I guess Lemmy isn’t for me” but will actually find some content to engage with instead.
Engage this! 🤜
Assimilate this! 🔫
The content will bring in users. I try to comment on interesting topics to help drive engagement.
This is my thoughts as well. I’ve noticed that once one or two people express interest in a post, it tends to get much more traffic
Unfortunately it seems that MAUs are steadily declining as well.
All I’m missing is the more niche communities to grow. It’s good to see lots of memes and engagement but a man needs more.
Be the more you want to see
It’s kind of hard to have thriving discussions on niche topics as one person, unfortunately.
Share posts you like from reddit from time to time. Ultimately, people will start to talk.
Whatchu wanna talk about, friend? Let’s get niche-y!
How do you create communities?
Go to your instance homepage, lemmy.ml then in the sidebar there should be a create community button, or if on mobile it may be hidden in the … menu button
Go to your instance homepage, lemmy.ml then in the sidebar there should be a create community button, or if on mobile it may be hidden in the … menu button
edit: accidentally deleted this comment so just reposting.
Not just communities, but niche instances. Having everyone on just a few instances isn’t good.
Lemmy does seem to have enough content and user engagement for my needs. I’ve noticed engagement going up the past month but wasn’t sure I was making that up in my head.
I really haven’t felt the need to go back to reddit much. But the niche communities could use a lot more users posting and creating new content.
I agree but with more and more users, that will happen naturally.
I agree with this. Plenty of content on All, not so much once you start doing a deep into communities. It’ll improve with time.
I agree with the niche stuff, but I will say I almost like having to create a post for my inquiry, and though not much engagement, what I do get is really helpful, more personal info from a few kind and knowledgeable people. So I think perhaps we should readjust our expectations and enjoy this for what it is.
I knew Lemmy was ready when It had an active politics Mega thread the other week.
I would like to thank everyone on here for the last two months or whatever it’s been from the start of the migration, and to the people just coming over, and those who were here already. I actually feel like I’ve grown as an individual in my time here. I’m starting to see certain patterns in my own behavior and working on them thanks to the content and the engaging discussions on here. I used to avoid interaction and lost all hope, but you are all really awesome. Thank you <3
Live long and prosper homie.
So say we all
🖖
I’ll be in my bunk
We are pretty amazing. This being my second post I am a self prescribed expert. That said… you too are amazing.
Everyone is much nicer here from what I’ve seen
Over half my feed is just low effort memes or auto posted arstechnica articles. Does this data include bot posts?
I would assume so. But I see quite some organic content as well, with good interactions in the comment sections. I’m pretty happy. 90% of what was on reddit was of no interest to me as tends to be the case with any large content aggregator.
Half the posts since yesterday are people bitching about Sync ultra costing the same amount of money as a Costco hotdog combo once a month. 🙄
I mean I’ve been posting Moldy Memes on the memes page. Mainly just to share my ancient saved stuff, and to help boost the meme page up with more posts. I do understand the frustration, but hopefully more, active users will come around.
My feed has zero memes (except those form [email protected] which obv do not qualify as “low effort”). I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to. If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.
I think unlike with Reddit, what you see if what you subscribe to.
This was also the case with Reddit, unless you intentionally went to /r/all? Or am I misunderstanding you? To clarify I always used RIF or went to old.reddit and was never force-fed any content from outside my subscriptions, when I stuck to the home-page.
If you don’t like what you’re seeing, change your subscriptions. Not having Reddit force stuff into the feed is nice but it also means everyone is fully responsible for what they’re seeing.
You make a good point, but I think here’s where the current downside of Lemmy comes in, discoverability between instances are pretty bothersome and not easily handled unless you again, go to your instance /all and check what other communities other people on the instance are subscribed to.
Trying to prune and maintain the All feed is a huge task at the moment, especially since some content might be the type of stuff you want to see sometimes, so just blocking News or Memes isn’t a perfect solution.
Having Tags for posts for easier filtering would be great, but right now sticking to a carefully selected subscribed feed has been easier, for me at least.
There are some apps - like Connect and Sync - that allow filtering keywords, domains and entire instances, should you want to try to control your All feed.
Yeah it’s quite a game of whack a mole to get rid of all those memes subs and their bot content… it’s actually worse than on reddit it seems.
I wonder how the graph will look in a month’s time now that Sync is in open beta.
As someone who never used Sync before, trust me, it will spike like crazy. I don’t know why I never used it before but this an amazing experience. If you’re reading this and trying to find a Lemmy app to use and don’t care about FOSS, get Sync ASAP
As someone who has been using sync for reddit for years, the app has come a long way and learned a lot over that time, and pretty much all of that is transferred over to the Sync for Lemmy app. The sync for Lemmy app really has a huge head start thanks to the Sync for Reddit app.
I remember when Reddit was releasing their app, they appeared to base it on Sync, and you can still see a lot of that influence today. I remember the Sync dev thinking it was all over for his app, since Reddit is copying his design and surely has a team that can develop a good app, but obviously Reddit stole a good design and ruined it.
A lot of that came from Alien Blue too (rip)
OK, convinced. Gonna try.
I always thought Sync for Reddit looked cool, but never found myself comfortable with it because RIF existed, and I always felt more comfortable with it.
I’m now using Sync and it is pretty great, but in my case it required some UI fiddling. It looks like Material Design 3, but I feel there’s something wrong with the default values for font and text size nothing that is unfixable, but just… Weird
Tweaking things to meet your usage is fantastic in Sync. The dev has some weird defaults, but assumes you want to tweak almost everything.
That’s honestly something I don’t entirely get in the case of Sync. Like, there is nothing wrong with allowing users to tweak things, but Sync is like, really heavy on the Material Design 3, you look at it, and it is undoubtedly M3. Yet, there is always something odd about the way it uses it.
Take for instance, the Navigation Bar, under Material Design Guidelines it is meant for destinations. And yet, on sync it offers:
- Home. A destination of sorts
- Explore. A button to open a bottom sheet
- Inbox. Also sort of a destination
- (optionally) Actions. Also a bottom tab
The main FAB is also weird, as it isn’t the primary action of the screen, it just opens a bottom sheet to bring more “actions” (some of which are destinations…)
Like, Sync is a very good app, but it has a few odd things that are really weird.
I don’t know enough about M3 to really comment on that, but when he updates things we cry about the changes. It looks like material design is 9 years old. He’s been developing Sync for, what, 12 years and a bit? So we’ve probably requested a lot of stupid shit, but he’s pretty good about listening. I know I was unhappy with some of the major UI updates and was happy he let me choose.
RIF is hot garbage for UI though.
Sorta…? Like, the outdated part is the visual, but the rest of the app is mostly fine, so you can spin the outdated visual as being minimalist or something like that. If you just updated the components to Material Design 3 it would be functional and fine.
The same couldn’t be said for Tasker for instance, which is outdated in general, and just updating the components wouldn’t fix much of the issues it currently has with the UX.
how does it compare to jerboa and connect, ive been meaning to switch full time to connect but im just used to jerboa now even though I miss that swipe to next post feature
I’ve been using 5 different apps trying to find my favourite and I like Jerboa the most, until yesterday when I found Sync.
I tried Sync yesterday, but didn’t have a lot of time to fiddle with it. What makes it so great everyone’s excited? I checked it out and couldn’t immediately see it having a clear edge over Jerboa and Connect (but it looked nice)
I was further thrown off by the fact that if I wanted to buy it, I’d need to pay for a yearly subscription (and in that case it didn’t look cheap)
Honest question for who can answer
Boost for Reddit all time user here so I’d never tried Sync before. When I took a dive to Lemmy, I tried Jerboa because it was the closest thing to Boost, great little app, but it think it needs some aesthetic polishing. The I tried Connect, and oh boy it’s fast, functional, pretty (although it needs some design polishing also), and I made it look like the closest to the classic Boost list view.
Then Sync for Lemmy was released and I wanted to know what was all the hype about. How could it be as good or better than Boost for Reddit?, I thought. Well, two days and I’m seriously thinking if I ever going to switch to Boost for Lemmy when it becomes available. Blew my mind!
Yes, there are some things not quite there yet (not being able to submit posts the major flaw for me), but design wise is just aeons ahead of any other Lemmy app.
Posting is coming soon. He’s just adding all the features, like crossposting, which I don’t think any apps support yet.
I copied this from another comment of mine. My advice is just give it a shot! The set up is super quick and the app just works.
For features: incredibly customizable material design. Extremely fluid. A lot of view customization. Comment drafts are something I missed on voyager.
Paid exclusive features: Cloud backups, user specific highlighting and theming, pull text from images, translate text, saved post folders (coming soon). No ads (yes the other apps don’t have ads and are generally free).
I don’t think I have any app, Lemmy or otherwise, that follows Material You so well.
Sync is Jerboa and Connect with the best ux :)
I only used Jerboa, but sync is far superior. Jerboa was so glitchy, it worked about half the time. Sync is very smooth and the developer is on it about fixing any glitches that may pop up. I’ve been using lemmy with jerboa since reddit closed the door on 3rd party apps, and I couldn’t be more relieved to have sync back.
Would be great if all previous reddit apps went to lemmy. I personally can’t wait for Baconreader for Lemmy.
Apollo going to Lemmy would be the ultimate middle finger to Spez, especially with the false accusations of blackmail.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ll keep using Sync as it’s actually good.
Lemmy is fun.
First comment ever on lemmy! With reddit and the latest update moving shtiff around, it’s gotten to a point where I no longer want to be apart of that app. Not mentioning the money grubbing infants over there… So I’m trying this one out! Thanks for staying open and active! 👍
Welcome home!
Literally, the more the merrier.Thank you!
I’m currently using “Connect for Lemmy”. Is this what most here recommend might recommend for Android?
I personally used Connect for a long time (currently trialing Sync) and honestly it’s a fine client for Lemmy. The really nice thing is that there are so many apps, you can start a Hunger Games out of them and narrow down to the one you like the most. That’s how I got to Connect after starting with all of the maintained Android apps a month ago.
Sync and boost!!!
Best OG’s with good ux/ui from reddit.
Use the app that works for you. That’s why many of us are here, because Reddit took away that option to push their shit tier official app that’s far inferior to literally every third party app I ever tried.
I am quite happy on Voyager
It really depends on your taste, you can download and try the suggestions and see which you like the most.
That being said my favourite is Voyager (wefwef.app), I have a Linux phone and need something that runs in the browser and it works great. It resembles Apollo so will also be good for iOS users who miss it
I really love it! Works better than jerboa on my side.
But waiting for “boost for lemmy” and I’ll see then
I landed on Connect before now trialling Sync (which I’m liking the best so far). I went through and tested them all before sticking to one, and that’s honestly just the best approach (if you have the time). They all have upsides and downsides, but ultimately it comes down to personal preference, particularly since aesthetic taste is so varied and subjective.
For example, some people love the iOS look of Voyager, some vehemently hate it.
My top 2 are Voyager and Connect.
Welcome
Having the sync app has made the transition so much easier. I don’t know if the same level of discussion will ever happen here, but I’m going to give it a try. I’m done going to the bot farm over there
The thing I find with discussion on here is that although most threads have way fewer comments and especially top level comments, I’m way more likely to get a response and end up in some kind of discussion than on Reddit where most of the time you just get lost in a sea of comments. Also think comments tend to be more conversational, less money, less aggressive etc, just generally nicer.
I’d take a smaller comment section over the bloated, “race to the top” comments that reddit had. The same five jokes over and over and you better hope you got the the thread within the first half hour because otherwise why even waste your time with a comment
man, I gotta admit I’m here solely because of Sync. no idea about the content yet, just enjoying the smooth ride of the app. (after the janky atrocity of the official reddit app. ;)
Same
I keep hearing good things about the Sync app and I’m just waiting here on iOS.
*Fixed typo thinks to things.
Lurker here mostly but happy to find a new home!
Ditto! Back to hiding in the dark…
Same!
🚀 more posters less lurkers!
I’m doing my part!
Right now my modus operandi is to post once in each community I see that I can provide anything for.
185 comments are mine! :)
And 7 posts…
To the moon!
Also think about how many more lurkers there are. There are many more lurkers than people making posts and comments.
A truly embarrassing amount of comments are mine.
all the subreddits i love had no visible immigration to lemmy so i will have to wait a while to see the change
Why wait and not just start a community up?
Not OP, but for me, the main community I interact with reddit for exists, there’s just no activity there. It’s currently the off-season (the community is hockey), so I think there’s no point in trying to grow the community at this moment. Hopefully in the fall we can get some traffic.
The main posts on r/hockey are just links to Twitter, as all the news is posted there first. I think they may even have bots on Twitter that post all of the links. If in the fall we are still as barren as we are now, I might communicate with the mods and ask if that’s something that they would be open to if I’m willing to write the bot.
I get what you going to say but clapping with one hand just doesn’t work. I mainly go to soccer sub in Reddit and it’s easily over 20k people online at any given time. Here in soccer sub it’s only like 4k follower and daily active people of ~40people. No matter how hard I try to talk to it will be only to myself.
Same here. How many of these posts are in meme communities?
A few of my communities came over but the big one I’m missing is the college football sub with flairs and everything so I can discriminate against those of lesser teams.
The one here just isn’t the same.
Happy to be here, doing my part. Thanks to all of you, that made it possible!
So it seems like lemmy is still improving in content, even though the reddit situation has stabilised. That is awesome to see!
Could you please tell me where I could read more about the reddit situation having been stabilized?
I’m new to Lemmy and I am using Sync for Lemmy but so far none of my comments are showing up. I’m attempting to comment from my browser this time and I hope it works.
Edit: my comments seem to be showing in browser but not via Sync for Lemmy. Can someone recommend different Lemmy app?
You can 100% comment from Sync.
Source: This comment.
I’m trying Sync right now and it works ok for me. I find Connect and Voyager the best Lemmy apps right now.
Jebora is aight, but lacks polish. I don’t think yo ucan comment from sync yet… I got a “feature coming soon” or something when I did. I think this might also work on infinity for lemmy.
I don’t know why people like you and me initially think it’s spelled “Jeb-ora” when it’s actually “Jer-boa”
lol I’ve been calling it Jer-oba. I don’t know how I got here, I can’t even read. 😮💨
Haha 🤣 same
Did you know the Jerboa is the same creature that Muaddib is named after? Qul-wahad!
😂 my bad… It’s a weird name
Just commented this from sync
What he obviously meant, but phrased incorrectly: you can’t create new posts from Sync. You should be able to comment on existing posts, though (doing it right now)
No issues with sync. Using right now
I also cant comment from sync. It shows error.
What does it say?
I use Jerboa. It does crash for me on ocassion though.
Connect would be my recommendation, surprised I haven’t seen it mentioned here. It works well, and is pretty close to what the Reddit apps felt like
Voyager is exactly like Apollo for reddit.
Liftoff probably looks most similar to Sync
I was having the same issues you are with posts being seen on browser side but I couldn’t see my posts in either connect or sync.
They showed up later on tho and people were voting and responding to them in meantime. So I think it’s probably just a server or api issue and not app related since for me at least the issue was consistent across apps
Testing