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This is 100% the fault of shitty advertisers spamming us with literal scams, malware, and spyware.
I get that ads pay for a free internet. But that doesn’t mean that 60% of my screen needs to be malware to read a local news article.
Until advertisers act in good faith, I block as much as possible.
Or those scummy click bait ads disguised as related articles? They make my blood boil with how they prey on the vulnerable.
That’s all Google discover is on my phone… Ai generated articles that are just click bait.
is a new episode of RandomShow airing tonight?
Star Trek 31 confirmed to feature major tng character (from today)
blah.
Google is so bad for this, plus the fact that they were the ones who started rewarding clickbait articles.
In my mind though, MSN will never be dethroned from having the shittiest content.
It can’t, just check the windows thing which appears as a left sidebar in windows 11 or the edge default homepage
I’ve been seeing clips from Ready Player One recently and this reminded me of the main bad guy’s philosophy on advertising in the OASIS.
we estimate we can sell up to 80% of an individual’s visual field before inducing seizures
Can’t help but feeling there’s some parallels there.
Seems unrealistic. In reality, they’d be asking how often the seizures occur and would figure out if the increased ad revenue from going to 90% would offset any potential lawsuits.
Used to be if I found the site of a newspaper I thought I liked, I’d turn off my ad blocker to see how it goes.
I don’t even try any more. Again and again and again, every time I turn it off the page gets so cluttered that following the article becomes a chore and takes up so many resources that even scrolling slows to a crawl. Ludicrous nonsense.
The cluttered pages with “videos” running all over the place is what frustrates me the most. I go in and disable javascript and see how it goes. Javascript seems to be the herpes of the internet as far as I am concerned.
I recently noticed a feature on iOS to open all new sites in Reader mode. It’s definitely more readable but mixed results when not everything is there
There’s got to be some sort of Accessibility violation here: where’s the EU when you need someone to stand up for consumers rights
Fr. I legitimately wouldn’t mind just a few banner ads to pay for things, but as per usual, the corpos got too damn greedy. So congrats, now you get no ad viewage from me.
Don’t forget those annoying floating ads and the tiny X that doesn’t actually close the ad
And the fucking videos that auto play in the bottom corner with audio. I think the old people that recently found out about internet are trying to turn it into regular TV.
It’s been years since I would browse the web with sound on.
Plus they made the whole industry weird and obfuscated like bulk produce or something even though it didn’t need weird distribution models and dark unseen players in every corner of every ad bought and seen. Why is it this way? I honestly don’t know. How did advertisers willingly make it that way over just paying site owners or 1 aggregator or something… I guess Facebook has kind of become that now
Tragedy of the commons
I installed an ad blocker once I started getting unmuted video ads. I would be studying for an exam and suddenly start getting blasted with a super loud ad. This was in like 2015, before Chrome added the speaker icon next to the tab playing sound I had to look through every tab to find the source and mute it.
This is 100% the fault of shitty advertisers spamming us with literal scams, malware, and spyware.
And the shitty websites running those ads with just a shrug of their shoulders saying “oops, 3rd party. I can’t be expected to control what’s on my website.”
Some folks still raw dog the net? Wrap that shit up
tbh it feels like most people I know use chrome or even edge without any extensions
Most Firefox users have never used extensions either. https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/extensions-addons/heres-whats-going-on-in-the-world-of-extensions/
How is that even possible when I see plenty of extensions with millions of users? 😅
even without darkreader!
How do I do that on iPhone?
You can do that by selling it and buying an Android.
Can you use a blocker on Android or is per app the best we can do?
I use an adblocking DNS plus UBO on Firefox
Tracker Control on Android works well for system-wide tracker and ad blocking, and you can configure custom blocking rules per-app. Works without root by using a VPN profile (but no data leaves your device via the VPN, it just routes the traffic through this app).
Set your DNS servers to dns.adguard-dns.com (Settings > search for DNS). Also you should install the DDG app and enable App Tracking Protection. You don’t actually have to use the browser portion of the app for it to work. After doing these two things, ads and trackers will be blocked in every app.
“an Android”
You know, like a Nintendo.
Instead of selling, you could also just throw it in the trash
I tried. I have to wait another 13 months or pay an extra $500 because when I signed up they gave me an iPhone SE for free and if I upgrade to soon I have to pay it off and I don’t get the next phone for free either.
Verizon is shifty af
EDIT: I apologize for saying Verizon is shitty and in the future I will think about my comments before I hit save.
Oh no Verizon is making you do the fucking shit you signed up and agreed to do oh no the horror!
It’s an Iphone SE 22. I would end up paying more than it’s worth to switch phones due to fees. I hope whatever is hurting your heart mends.
Oh my heart is fantastic, Suzanne, but thanks for your concern.
I just don’t go online and complain about the terms of legal contracts that I signed while blaming the company for being the bad guys for setting forth the terms that you, again, agreed to.
🤦
Edit: And your downvotes mean nothing either rofl.
RIght. You go online and act like an asshole, which is much worse. You’ve posted 75 times in a wrestling community in less than a week. You’re lonely and lashing out.
With an ad blocking dns.
https://adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html
Go down to the configure manually option and follow the instructions for iPhone.
I think next guard is also supposed to be decent, but they won’t let you use it without an account.
The nice thing about the dns approach is it works for more than just your web browser. There’s a bunch of Android games that are essentially unplayable without an adblocking dns.
As a disclaimer, a bunch of sites are ramping up requiring enabling ads or they won’t let you load the content. I’m ok with just hitting back and not viewing those sites, but my MIL just asked for help removing the ad guard dns because her news sites wouldn’t let her in.
Thank you!
I use a Safari extension called Purify. It’s in the App Store. Works pretty well for me.
(I also use a pi-hole at home)
Similar for me - 1Blocker and pi-hole at home. Then I also VPN to my home when outside to continue the pi-hole filter.
I also use iCloud relay with non-precise location.
Can you install Firefox?
In Firefox you should be able to install the add-on “uBlock origin”. No additional tweaking of settings required.
With Firefox you can browse the web including pages like YouTube.
Can’t use add-ons for iOS Firefox as far as I can find
You can soon in the EU
Only if you agree to giving your first-born child to Apple.
You can use “extensions” for Safari, and there are at least a couple ad blocking extensions. I use Purify, and it works pretty well at blocking ads
Some VPNs like Mullvad actually have an option in their app to block ads, gambling stuff, etc.
They don’t catch everything, but work pretty well.
Set your DNS to next DNS https://nextdns.io
Edit: Ah sorry didn’t realize this was already answered.
You answered better and thanks for the link. It’s this a free service?
I’m using adguard but I’ve heard the owners are possibly unscrupulous.
At least, you can change your DNS to one who blocks ads. It’s not as efficient as uBlock origin and system wide on Android. But, it’s better than nothing.
The iCondom
I’m sorry? lol
It’s a condom for your i
Like a contact lens?
Sir, this is a
Wendy’siCream shop
Back when I had an iPhone I used Orion. It’s not perfect, but it blocked the vast majority of ads for me.
Definitely look into Next DNS. There are also some Safari extensions that can block ads.
I also suggest buying refurbished unlocked phones in the future instead of going for the carrier freebies which you can see are scams designed to lock you into paying for their overpriced service each month for over a year.
Since there are so many assholes trying to meme on you instead of trying to help you,
https://adguard.com/kb/adguard-for-ios/solving-problems/system-wide-filtering/
I bought the complete app for I think $12 and it is awesome and does exactly what I need. They give you a very generous trial time.
DAE hate iPhone!?! LOL
Thanks a lot! I’m trying to set it up now
You can use https://apps.apple.com/us/app/dnscloak-secure-dns-client/id1452162351
To set a DNS based adblock, it is easy to setup, opensource, and free.
I have been on Android for a long time but I still have an old iPhone that works fine for reading articles. Bonus, there is no Sim in it so no one can call me. It’s my drinking coffee device.
As a quick and easy alternative, you can set it to automatically open sites in reader mode. I’ve been trying that lately and it definitely helps although also mixed results where sites block part of their content from reader mode.
With automatic reader mode, I click to hide reader much less often than I formerly clicked to enable it
AdGuard works well.
You can install Orion browser by Kagi and install extensions from Firefox like AdBlock Plus
AdGuard still works well but there are other safari extensions. At home I use eero ad blocking which works well for a maintenance free blocker.
I use FireFox on my phone.
Ghostery addon for safari is solid.
I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Unlike when your friends or parents might raw dog, you can put that adblock condom on their computers for them.
I am surprised the reason for blocking ads doessn’t include making sites somewhat readable. I guess faster loading could be it? But generally it’s more of a layout problem than a bandwidth one.
I tend to not use adblockers, or when I do it’s on a black list system for worst offenders rather than by default. However, I absolutely refuse tracking, and if it’s the only option I go to firefox reader mode immediately.
The usual false dichotomy of “personalised ads or you’re killing us!” is not acceptable.
Ad tech IS the tracking, so if you’re not blocking ads, you’re not actually refusing said tracking. I think you might be conflating cookies with being tracking (they are), but that’s only a part of it.
I wonder why ad tech can‘t be „Let‘s show ads that correspond to what‘s being talked about on that website.“ Kinda like what Google suggested with Topics but without following me through the internet.
There is no real technical challenge in displaying ads that are based on the page content. But ads based on tracking users is much more profitable. Plus they can sell the data collected to anyone else that is interested.
Look, you need to understand that advertisers are Hell-bent on forcibly extracting as much money from you as possible. If they could strap you to a chair, hold your eyes open like in A Clockwork Orange, and then charge you for everything you so much as glanced at, they absolutely would.
If that’s not how you want to live, then they are your enemy.
You know i think i understand companies sometimes but then i keep being baffeld at how evil a company can be.
Apple for example had me surprised with the reaction to the DMA and i previously thought that they couldn‘t possibly suck harder wirh alö their anti-repair stuff.
I still have a bone to pick with Tim Cook himself for rendering my well working Mac Mini 2012 unusable for my app development job by simply not updating Xcode and introducing a breaking change that prevented me from adding support for new iOS versions to old Xcode.
The saddest part is, companies used to be required to act in the common good, but the courts have gradually jettisoned that concept for mostly bullshit reasons.
Because that’s not as profitable. That’s it. That’s the reason.
Don‘t you just hate it when
When capitalism
I use them on my personal systems but not my work laptop. I have to use an ad blocker on my phone because so many sites, including “respected” news organizations, are an absolute mess when ads are enabled.
It’s bad when you go to one of the top news company’s websites in the US and there’s a pile of content covered by advertisements. I guess I didn’t need to read those sentences anyway.
I guess faster loading could be it? But generally it’s more of a layout problem than a bandwidth one.
There was a website which I allowed ads on to help support them. One day, I went to that site in my browser and my laptop fans spun up at that time. Turns out that ads on that site caused my processor usage to spike near 100%. A reload fixed the issue. Once that same thing happened 2 to 3 more times, I just blocked all ads on that site from then on.
There are times that people can’t throw the resources of an Intel i5 processor towards rendering the advertisements on one website. I would think that is more common these days with Chromebooks running the modern equivalent of a Celeron processor. Phones also don’t have much processing power to give and will warm up and drain batteries all towards the all important goal of “render those advertisements”.
I think people tend to allow advertising until it becomes a major problem that needs resolved (such as if the site is bogging down your computer or if the advertising makes the site unable to be read easily). Since those people would then need to fix the issue and hopefully fix it for good, it is easy and efficient to just block out all advertising forever.
I dislike the fact that “ads” can also include crapware being injected into my computer (viruses, tracking cookies, mysterious scripts, etc).
If you had nothing to hide, you wouldn’t mind Trojans! /s
And there are so many scam ads that look like UI buttons and such. I can see why people get fooled sometimes. Those sort of ads should automatically be rejected by af networks and the sites that host them. But $$$
The main problem is 3rd party advertising. If the New York Times ran ads on their website like they did with the physical newspaper, we would not have this problem.
Publishers need to take direct responsibility for every ad on their platform.
Plausible deniability. Oh, a mildly sexual ad has shown to you? Someone probably approved it on the third-party site. Oh, you didn’t want to see it? Sorry, we got nothing to do with it.
Also scams and other grey-area shit.
I thought the text said “stop AIDS” but practically the same thing.
I’ve been using an ad blocking DNS for years and would not consider using the internet without it. Since it’s a DNS it works everywhere on mobile or Wi-Fi. I just figured that an ad blocker of some sort is basically a digital condom and must be used. When I see people who don’t use one, I think they are crazy.
Had my boss trying to grab a pdf (crosswords, colouring pages, printed for kids in a pub) while using Chrome without any adblock extensions.
The volume of ads, trick links, and shite on that one website in particular was outstanding. She asked me if a link was OK to click. Promptly pointed out she should use Firefox (which has unlock and other extensions added) instead of chrome as the link she had clicked was for some sketchy software and not a crossword.
I can’t imagine the internet without ad blockers. Ublock is a great addition, removing elements from pages is a huge advantage. So many sites sling rubbish wherever they can.
Yep, i use UBlock as well as a second layer of defense. As Asher Roth says “when it comes to condoms, put two on”.
Edit: Just in case, do not actually use two condoms. They will break each other and you will end up a father.
But also don’t. They will shred each other and you’ll get a baby.
It really is bad advice. And I don’t know why the song promotes it.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
“when it comes to condoms, put two on”
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Do you only use a DNS ad-blocker or also a client-side ad-blocker?
Both, I use a DNS level ad blocker on my entire network and use UBlock origin on my browser. That way most ads are killed outside of the browsers as well and it keeps my system from contacting malware servers by domain name at least.
Edit: Mind you, most of my apps are open source and have no ads to begin with, but for the few that are closed source. That’s what the blockers are for.
Many parts of the Internet has become functionally unusable without one. And given online advertising’s history as a vector for malware, as blockers are just the sensible choice.
Does anyone ever actually click on an ad? Like “hey thats cool I wanna check it out/buy it right here right now”?
I have adblockers active everywhere and only disable then somtimes for specific sites that really don’t work otherwise, but even if the unlikely case would come up that something is interesting I would just look it up separately? Mostly I just turn a blind eye on them anyway, but just wondering, some people gotta really click/buy from these ads? It just seems so surreal to me…
The only obvious ad I’ve ever clicked on was for a “free” IQ test. I figured I’d never done one cause they’re fake, but I had time to kill, so I clicked through. After 20 mins or so answering questions, it ended on a transaction page. The only way to see your “results” was by paying $20. I obviously didn’t pay, and instead tried to report the ad, only to discover that Google Ads has zero mechanism to even report scams to Google. After some research, it turned out that this blatant bait and switch scam had been operating via Google Ads for like 5 or 7 years. Google doesn’t give a fuck if scammers use it’s ad tech to scam your grandma or inject your system with malware, as long as they get paid for the privilege.
I’ve always used an ad blocker, but the whole experience reinforced how anti-consumer and pro-criminal surveillance capitalism is. Permanent absolute ad block — without exceptions — is how everyone should operate, because none of these companies deserve any trust whatsoever. Even if you trust the site you’re visiting, you can’t trust any ad company they utilize.
The only obvious ad I’ve ever clicked on was for a “free” IQ test. I figured I’d never done one cause they’re fake, but I had time to kill, so I clicked through.
That click should have lead you to a page that says ‘you failed’. 😂
The EU is currently testing a new payment framework that would make payments faster and easier and also enable very small payments.
This could finally enable micropayments in browsers (well, in Firefox and maybe Safari) which would eliminate intermediaries like Google and all the scummy ad companies and enable websites to work out deals directly with visitors on the spot (pay a very small amount like a cent or a fraction of a cent to read this article).
Obviously, Google will need to be dragged kicking and screaming into this.
I’m still not paying a fraction of a cent for the obviously LLM-generated bullshit that has flooded the internet.
And yet for content I can be reasonably sure is actually human generated (read: niche enough to not have been flooded to the point I no longer can trust the “usual”/“big” sites) I might consider paying for server costs a little.
If you’re walking around somewhere and you see a person or people offering a “free personality test,” do not take them up on their offer. They’re Scientologists. They once refused to let my mother leave back in the 70s until she said she would start screaming “rape.”
People definitely do. CTR (click through rate) is generally pretty low, even before the majority of Americans were using ad blocks. But it’s not 0
My wife does. But she’s a sucker for “a good deal”
I dont ever click on them myself, but if I start searching for something I need/want, and I see a brand I’m familiar with thru advertising, I’m more likely to explore their product, at least. Simply just because, “of I’ve heard of this before”
Brand recognition is one of the key goals for running ads, it works.
But these are never real deals are they? At least I saw maaaaaaany bullshit fake deals, cant remember anything legit ever…
I also found my mum buying crap of instagram a while ago, but i kinda got to her to be a bit more mindful what she clicks on.
I have ad blockers everywhere, except native mobile apps. I’ve clicked on an Instagram ad for shirts. I bought the shirts. People keep complimenting me on the shirts. No regrets there
I guess that sounds reasonable. I sometimes miss seeing some of the cool stuff on instagram
I know ad rates and metrics are heavily based around click through, but does it even actually matter? I mean, TV ads are big money expensive, and nobody has ever clicked on those. I guess if you’re advertising a shitty mobile game or something then it matters, but does McDonalds or whatever even want you to buy a hamburger before you watch a YouTube video? That doesn’t really make a lot of sense.
As you’ve noticed, there are different types of ads. Not all have clicks as their goal. Some are just there to make you think about their brand, for example.
Not only did my late father-in-law click on ads, he also clicked on spam emails. Yes, his computer was super slow and I regularly had to clean off the malware.
Sometimes the sponsored links at the top of a Google search are exactly what I was looking for. I just need to quickly disable AdAway so that I can follow the link.
Says a company that makes an ad blocker
Highly unlikely, but hopefully one day.
Ad blocker is kind of a sad name for a content/spam filter, a vital security tool, but that’s what we got. Especially since browsers naively didn’t include filtering and block lists by default and they only became common as add-ons.
Ads are just pure negative. There was even one study that calculated this as a direct financial negative, although unfortunately in narrow circumstances: it was calculated that for mobile users in the US, paying for the data transferred to display the ad was more expensive than what the site owner got paid for including it on his site.
That’s is indeed a pure negative - for the users. The site and the the mobile carrier both got paid.
Yes yes, capitalism good.
Don’t forget the company serving the ads, and also the company paying for them
I’ve always thought that the ad supported internet is something people will eventually get sick of and the financial foundation would evolve over time to find models that don’t rely on infinite spam. Instead efforts are focussed on forcing us to view them. At this point I’m expecting the next version of Chrome to require the Ludovico technique while browsing.
I mean, many (several?) sites tried optional subscriptions where you pay to get rid of ads, but that doesn’t seem to have worked. Judging by the fact that most sites that have subscriptions instead of ads use pay walls.
People have come to expect free access, so if you can easily use an ad blocker, why would you choose to pay to remove the ads that a blocker removes for free.
Let’s just take NYT for example. Subscription costs $325/year. Why would I ever pay that much? It’s not 1954. I’m not sitting down with my morning coffee and reading the damn thing front to back. I’m reading maybe one article a week from 15 different sources. Am I supposed to pay $5000/year just to cover my bases?
As with everything else in [CURRENT YEAR] the value proposition is so absurdly out of step with reality that fixing it basically relies on rolling out the guillotines.
The problem is they’re trying to double down on infinite spam by implementing infinite subscriptions alongside it.
Theres people who dont use ad blocker? Do they also not use the internet?
none of my classmates or teachers use adblockers. i didn’t expect this in a university. most don’t even know what i’m talking about when i recomment ublock…
Had a front end dev who didn’t use adblocker.
Sometimes I temporarily disable mine to make sure it’s not silently breaking any of my layout or anything, but not using one at all? That’s bonkers.
I suspect 98% of Apple users don’t block ads
That’s because ads fucking suck