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        what would you do on your days off, currently an unemployed minor and im wasting my life

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          Hobbies. Whatever you enjoy doing. Go camping, traveling, play video games, hangout with friends, go to the beach, swim, bike, run, hike. If you lack friends join social groups, meet ups, Facebook groups etc. Fishing, hunting, sports. Artsy things. Take a course you’re interested in.

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          Hike, cycle, do some sport or hobby you like. If you don’t have that, try everything that comes to mind at least once and see if you like it. You’ve got all the time in the world to do so!

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          I usually just catch up on sleep and chores. Maybe play some videogames if I have time leftover.

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      Me too! Swimming and hiking for two weeks straight in northern Italy is hard! Mountains tomorrow again…

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    Man, a lot of you Americans need to unionize. None of this happens at my work and it’s precisely because we’re unionized and have a contract that specifically says that our employer is bound by strict rules. Granted, we don’t get a month paid vacation, but we can’t be denied time off, can’t be compelled to be on call, can’t be forced to work overtime and we have PTO accounts, healthcare and a pension that get paid into on a weekly basis.

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      “but we get paid so much more” /s. I’ve heard this before from people in the tech sector, ignoring the fact that should the shit hit the fan we Americans have no social programs to assist us. I’d take half my pay to get what people in Europe are guaranteed.

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        Recently saw a yt vid by David Wen, USA vs Dutch worklife, who took a 50% paycut for a healthy work-life balance.

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      We try and then it’s taken over by corrupt lazy union bosses that don’t actually help or the company just fires you under an at will employment lie and hires scabs. The government has essentially been infiltrated by corporate American to pass legislation allowing them to break unions easier. Lobbying is our problem, not the lack of unions atm.

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        It’s nice to see the latest upswing in labor actions in the US, but the labor movement isn’t what it used to be that’s for sure. Even the way the history of labor is taught now is completely whitewashed and decoupled from any notion of class conflict. Take the history of civil right’s organizers for instance and the connection with labor, MLK is the big one but also Randolph, the famous “I Have A Dream” speech at the March on Washington (“-for Jobs and Labor” is usually left out of the title nowadays.) Also the Jim Crow order is purely seen as a racist order, which is accurate, but the means by which it was designed to deal with the Populists in the late 19th century because of the threat they were as a political force. It’s even in the culture war shit that goes on now, Bud Light for instance, none of that “conversation” ever touched on the fact they were basically forced to first hire queer people because of Teamsters labor pressure and gay bar boycotting their beer.

        I think the militant conflicts like Harlan country are pretty well known but again it’s like the class notions are removed in today’s recollections and how it’s taught. It’s focused on some individuals who wanted better wages vs the bad guy running the mine, not about the inherent conflicts between these workers and the owners by design of the economic system, and how that still pervades today. It’s seen as something from the past.

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        That’s objectively bullshit that is given the lie by the fact that unionized workers, on average, are far better paid and have much better benefits than their non-union equivalents.

        You clearly know next to nothing about union organizing and are spouting a bunch of bullshit disinformation that’s been fed to you by big money interests.

        Is that your fault? No, not really. You’ve been fed a metric shitload of bullshit all your life and you have never been told the truth and as such can’t be blamed for your ignorance.

        The truth is that under the NLRB --and the Biden NLRB is the most labor-friendly in living history-- you have the right to organize and cannot legally be fired for doing so and if you are, you have grounds for a lawsuit that plenty of non-profit attorneys will help you prosecute on principle.

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      Just to fight against the hive mind that America is a uniform hell scape. People from my team routinely dip with only a few days notice for vacations and sometimes because they feel like they need a day off.

      Frankly I don’t take my PTO but that’s more of a personal problem than my work’s. I was a workaholic through college because frankly I’m not outstandingly smart, and I don’t feel comfortable taking it now. It’s a mental problem that I wish didn’t get minimized so often here.

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    This was my father in-law. He developed sepsis from the foot they had to keep doing surgery on. On his hospital bed where he is hooked up to just about every machine possible, this man was on his laptop doing work and on a cell phone talking to this engineer and that engineer. After his foot was amputated, even on disability he was being called 24/7. He was the most important person in the region, he memorized every fiber optic line and location. His boss was treating him like shit to get him to quit, he didn’t like dad for some reason, so he pushed dad constantly and shamefully. Once dad died, they had the nerve to call us asking if he had any documents that could help them with a project, he was doing the job of 4-5 college graduates and they were barely managing. He only had his high school degree but the man knew his shit. He had an interview lined up at a new higher paying job, he was one week away, and he spent the last few months of his life crying from stress, hating his job, and just in near constant despair, the only thing that he was looking forward to was mine and my wife’s wedding. Corporate America is a vampire and not the sexy kind, the nosferatu kind.

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    Big part of me clearly knows there is no such thing as a binary right and wrong in life, yet… this is a crystal clear example somehow — and not the only one.

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      My boss is having his wedding tomorrow. He was supposed to start his vacation earlier this week. He definitely showed up to meetings I GUARANTEE he didn’t need to be in on the first day he was supposed to be gone. Man, we’ve been here longer than you. We can handle it. You’re awesome, but don’t let upper management bully you. Us senior devs sure don’t. Fuck em.

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        My boss assured me he couldnt make the client meeting last week because he was on vacation. So he phoned in on Teams from the boat dock where he was staying with his family.

        And that was self imposed, hes the company owner! Some people just cant let go.

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      That big part of you is fetishizing nuance and mistaking it for wisdom

      Nuance doesn’t stand on its own, there is no sense saying something has merit because it has nuance. I can give 10 examples of things that would be moronic if you tried to add nuance into them. “Nazism bad”. “The crime of loitering shouldn’t exist”. “The planet is getting hotter”

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    In some countries, Summer is something you have - not just the name of a season you can see from your office window.

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    So unrealistic… No way the guy on the bottom got the time off to go to surgery.

    Imagine how mad my former boss was when I was in the hospital for 4 days because the heart issues I didn’t know about were causing me to nearly pass out at work. Then I got a note that let me off for 3 weeks to let the new meds take effect before I went back.

    Don’t get me started on how half ass the diagnosis ended up being either. Got a heart transplant 5 years later after seeing a different doctor.

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      Had you gotten a new heart rhythm, by the way? Was it hard to accommodate to your new heart?

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        Same guy, my other instance seems to be down.

        I’m not sure what you mean by a new heart rhythm. Once I got a healthy heart I’ve been at a normal sinus rhythm, rather than dealing with tachycardia and a bad arrhythmia, if that’s what you mean. My rate is a bit elevated than a normal person’s because the nerves that more closely control that get cut during the transplant (if my understanding is correct).

        Otherwise, I did some physical therapy for a few months and have to take anti-rejection medication for the rest of my life, but I’m better than before by far.

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            Nothing strange, no. More of a realization of how out of wack my old heart was before the surgery. Once I got through some of my therapy, I felt normal again for the first time in a long time and not long after i felt even better than my old normal.

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    I live and work in Japan, but I’m still in this picture and I hate it… Though my work-life balance has progressively gotten better. I don’t, however, let my subordinates do that; I want them to have real time off. If they answer a slack or something, it’s helpful, but I’d rather they didn’t think about work in their off time. I try to be the leader I wished for.

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      I still think of work in Japan as endless hours spent at your desk, waiting for your boss to leave so you can leave a bit after, with little recognition and complete loyalty (or at least feigned loyalty) to your bosses and the company as a whole. Is it still the case today?

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        Some companies are still like that. Moreover, some people are just like that… and that’s the crux of the issue. Social pressure is huge in Japan, so it’s hard for people who want no part in that to stop when others keep doing it (even if no one orders or even expects them to).

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    I used to be the second guy, and then realized the system I was working in. America can fuck itself, I’m off to Europe later this year.

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    it’s not just europe, I live in Latin America we have 3+ weeks of payed time off, the us job market is the weirdo

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      That’s why they are the best country in the world and us lazy people are third world shitholes /s

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      I’ve always found the term Paid Time Off as a degenerative term. Like they are doing you some kind of favour.

      It’s a holiday, please kill that PTO term.

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        The pto thing is because most office/tech jobs let you take unpaid time off too. Just means you won’t make your full salary for the year based on the number of unpaid days you take.

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          The fact that’s also a thing blows my mind.

          We don’t have that option here. Between the holidays and things like special leave, I’ve never been not paid for taking time off.

          You can take a years unpaid career break which is kinda cool as your job is guaranteed when you return.

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            Yeah it’s pretty shit. Since some places they only offer 1 or 2 weeks vacation a year if you want a longer one you end up needing to take the unpaid time off.

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      The meme seems to imply that Europeans all get 3+ MONTHS off a year. How do businesses operate if they’re always missing a quarter of their staff?

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          Sounds like one of those bullshit jobs. The further you get from actually making something the less valuable skilled workers are to production.

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            If the same job can be done by more people working fewer hours it’s a “bullshit job”? Elaborate.

            Have you heard about shifts? I hear they’re all the rage in production.

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        Productivity and profits have steadily risen for decades while wages have hours worked have increased.

        So business obviously were able to survive and thrive with more employees taking a larger slice of the profits. The businesses would be able to operate just fine.

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        The meme is clearly exaggerating for comedic effect. Standard is 4 to 6 weeks PTO across Europe.

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          Exactly. And the exaggeration is the same for the American part, I’m sure that even an American would take a whole half day off for kidney surgery.

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    Americans have a humiliation fetish, else they’d fight for livable wages.

    You know what monkeys do when one monkey hoards all the bananas? They rip, claw and beat that monkey to a bloody pulp.

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      A one man fight is essentially banishment. Too many of our countrymen are brainwashed to believe that working yourself to death is a point of pride, and here we are. Many of us want better for ourselves and especially our kids, but bootlickers keep us all in shit city.

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        Not only that, the powers that are in control of the country have intentionally limited our ability to collectivize, they have reduced our wages as much as they can to keep us desperate, they have reduced our time off to keep us tired. They do not want us to fight and they have structured it such that we won’t until we are all entirely broken.

        Work from home is an issue because we realized we can have lives again, and maybe we could even work less!

        But then we have more time to focus on things that matter, like protesting and unionizing.

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      You’re assuming too much of Americans. We exist in late-stage capitalism and are desperately trying to survive.

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    I’m an American with unlimited time off. Took 3 weeks to travel after 4 months at the company. Not every company operating here is a POS.

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      We did a year of unlimited time off. I took 2x1-week and 1x2 week and a few days here and there.

      At the end of the year they announced no time off except Christmas and Thanksgiving days during Nov thru Jan and you can’t take more than a week off at the time.

      They couple this with a company wide raise but if they don’t change the policy after the moratorium ends in January I think I’d rather earn less and have more time off.

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    America bad! Europe good! I was really hoping we left this tired joke on Reddit.

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      Yes. I’m more middle-left, but this place seems to be going a bit far towards anti-capitalist socialism and anarchy. Capitalism isn’t the problem, greed is. That can be fixed with restrictions on what corporations can get away with - not ad hominems against the founders and CEOs.

      Edit: 3 months of capitalist bullcrap later, I’m a socialist now…

      That said, fuck Spez. That was an executive decision made solely by him.

      Also, far anti-corporateism should probably be expected in a community that consists solely of people (mostly geeks) ‘on strike’ because a big company ruined their old platform…

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        capitalism isn’t the problem, greed is

        Lol. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie, as certain bearded guy said.

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        That can be fixed with restrictions on what corporations can get away with

        The problem is that capital can and does react to this. Companies will bribe and lobby until they can erode whatever meager guardrails you managed to install, and in the meantime they’ll carefully calculate how much they can break the law before the consequences outweigh the benefits.

        As long as capital is the main driver of politics this will keep happening. “Take money out of politics” doesn’t work, either, because capital will erode or evade those laws, too. You do have to look at moving on from capitalism if you want anything more than a small, temporary change.