For those who are wondering, yes, Wine is malware compatible so be careful about the EXEs you run!
This is why I always test suspicious files on my work issued PC.
You’re the reason my Mondays are always chaos
I see you work for my company…
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[Gru, the long-nosed protagonist of the “Despicable Me” franchise, presents to the camera, pointing into the air and smiling. Behind him is a flipchart with text reading:]
And the best part about using Linux: No viruses!
[Still presenting, Gru has his hand in a C shape and his head down as he peers at the gap between his fingers. The text now reads:]
Look at this, a website downloaded a malicious .exe on my machine.
[Gru now has his hands pointing down, fingers splayed, still presenting. The text now reads:]
*Double Click*
See? Nothing happe…
[Gru looks back to the flipchart in a double-take, his eyes round and wide and his mouth downturned. The text still reads:]
*Wine is launching*
[The Wine logo: a slightly tipped wine glass with red wine sloshing inside it.]
I am a human who transcribes posts to improve accessibility on Lemmy. Transcriptions help people who use screen readers or other assistive technology to use the site. For more information, see here.
Oh gods I’m tired. I read:
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And saw the line break and thought “Wow. That was a good transcription.” I think I need to go back to bed.
Does Lemmy not support alt text? I can’t add alt text from Infinity for Lemmy; is that because Lemmy doesn’t support it or just my client? Because they really should.
As far as I’m aware, Lemmy unfortunately does not provide the option to add alt text to images. Hopefully that will change, though!
Really? So when I write , the alt text does nothing?
I didn’t know you could do that!
From what I can see, this means you can add alt text to images you embed using markdown. However, directly uploaded images in posts don’t seem to have a way to directly add alt text that I can find. You can add a transcription in the text body, but it’s not quite as accessible as pure alt text because screen readers won’t read it automatically when the image gets focused.
Possibly you could embed an image in the text body and upload that like a text post, and that way use the markdown to add the alt text, but that would require the image is already hosted somewhere in the internet.
Oof that sucks. Thank you for answering :)
It would be great if it had proper alt text. But since an image post can have an additional text body you can put an image description there. I guess it’s a good idea to wrap it in a spoiler/
<details>element.Image description
Gru…
::: spoiler Image description Gru… :::</details>
Good human
I feel like, for some weird reason, nobody on lemmy knows how meme templates are supposed to be used.
It’s like watching my parents try to meme and I’m here for it.
People bitching about meme usage. I am home.
Same thing happened on Reddit, honestly.
you mean because of the last two panels which are supposed to be the same? I personally prefer this version, it always bothered me reading the same thing twice which didn’t add much to the meme
The double take is the meme though…
it doesn’t have to conform to the exact format to work
If it doesn’t conform to the format, you should pick a different one that it does conform to and use that instead.
What if they couldn’t come up with a different format (even tho I may know different formats to use here I sometimes simply don’t know their name (to search for their templates) or I’m just lacking the mental capacity to think of a more fitting one :')
its like retelling a joke you heard but leaving out the punchline
This happened to me not long ago when I found a monero miner running on my laptop. Being a highly technical person, I feel unbounded shame.
How did you figure out it was running? How did you confirm? Teach me your methods
Please
I might be able to find a weird service or background app at most. Figuring out what is actually happening is beyond me.
Was it still through WINE? I’d feel bad for the miner as well as it likely couldn’t have done the MSR mod so low hashrate lol.
Feeling bad that a scammer couldn’t scam hard enough is hilarious. Only in a Linux forum.
Tbf, if you get an OOTB distro infected, that is most definitely user error
If you (somehow) manage to get gentoo or lfs infected, I’d still consider it user error lol
LFS maybe, but gentoo or arch is understandable because you have to set the security up yourself.
“Well no problem, they can’t run without root privileges!” -/home left the game
Time to go back to our “roots” then.
Reminds me https://xkcd.com/1200
Even better: Wine defaults to giving access to your whole drive to new prefixes.
Though “only” your personal files are at risk cause of permissions.
You really don’t think Linux has viruses? I’m confused by this post. Is it an excuse to shit on wine and windows?
There are very few Linux viruses. With its low market share, it’s not a juicy target, or at least not desktop users.
Yeah that kinda thinking is really not useful. Linux is a very very juicy target these days due to your thinking. Desktop Linux installations are riddled with poor security settings and many server features enabled by default. IOT devices and self spun servers are regularly deployed unsecured as well.
Yeah, even if it IS true that it’s not juicy right now, doesn’t that mentality run directly contradictory to the desire for linux to become more popular? We’re trying to increase market share, so the “not a juicy target” idea is a very wreckless way of thinking.
I disagree. Linux is run on a large number of servers. It may be a less tempting target for Trojan style malware, but exploits and vulnerabilities for Linux are very valuable since you can gain access to large amounts of valuable data.
They’re super rare. I’ve not gotten one once in decades, whereas I’ve encountered countless viruses on Windows. Linux is more secure, but also it’s just a smaller target. Best way to avoid viruses is to use an OS nobody else wants to use *taps head
Vulnerable to malwareMalware compatibleAnd anti cheat don’t work… Malware that gets into internals of windows probably fail like anti cheat
It can still corrupt files. I knew that wine was the shut when I had to delete my wineprefix because Eve Online complained about corrupted file. Even better, a virus scanner would run and detect the malware.
unless its just simple ransomware that will nuke your /home (or Z:\home) content if you don’t sandbox it
Windows version of rm -rf /* would work
technically that is only true if the malware in question does something in the kernel or relies on an unimplemented wine api call, since a lot of malware is an infostealer or ransomware, its quite likely that it’ll work just fine under wine
The year of Linux desktop! Complete with the malwares!
I use Nix, so I’ll just reinstall my system if anything really bad ever happens. Sometimes I reinstall just because. My important files are on a delegate drive I have to manually mount, so I’m not too worried.
One of the things I learned several years ago was how to set up my HD so that the system and home folder are on different partitions. It isn’t terribly hard to do, and every OS installer I’ve used gives you the option. It’s served me very well.
What’s the purpose of having system and home folder on different positions?
You can easily install a new system if your system gets borked or you just want a new distro, and you won’t lose your files.
I don’t have a need for that atm(like I said, my laptop has a separate drive), but will look into that in case I ever need it in the future. My problem with this personally tho is that I share my drive between Windows and Linux, and Linux doesn’t exactly play well with NTFS. Sounds really cool however for having a multi boot Linux system, with all your files shared between distros.
I install all wine related stuff inside podman container usin a nice thing called toolbox. That way your system is not polluted with all those libraries and bimboze stuff runs nicely inside a box. Not bulletproof but better than nothing
Could you please provide a link for the toolbox utility? I’m having trouble finding it. Thank you :)
Here’s the git repo https://github.com/containers/toolbox
A similar program named distrobox is also popular, as it has certain features (exports) and more images: https://github.com/89luca89/distrobox
Oh cool. I wasnt aware of distrobox.
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And now some normie is going to think that Wine is actually a virus.
Nah, but proprietary software is often malware.
I thought wine was open source, or am I misunderstanding you ?.
WINE itself is open source, but it’s designed to facilitate the use of proprietary software. (This is because although it can be used to run open-source Windows software, best practice would be to recompile or port that stuff to Linux instead.)
If proprietary software is often malware and WINE is designed to facilitate proprietary software, then WINE is designed to facilitate malware.
(FWIW, I agree with the above statement, but use Wine anyway for a few games.)
It’s certainly better to use WINE to run a few proprietary programs than to run a whole proprietary operating system like Windows :)
I mean if you consider Windows a virus, by extension…yes? /s 😜
Best self checkmate I’ve seen tonight
