Note: I’ve no idea why the uploader decided to rotate the image, when I’ve tried rotating the original image in a way that’d fix it only to see that it didn’t matter

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    Beyond parody. Now ink is a subscription service as well? Soon a back to school supply subscription service will be created.

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      I’m all for shitting on mandatory subscription services but this is optional. You have a choice. Why are you shitting on choice?

      I actually have the cheapest sub for this because I did the math and it’s cheaper than buying cartridges. I use the printer enough to justify it’s existence but that’s about it. If they price goes up and the math doesn’t work anymore I’ll cancel it.

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    Regarding your image rotation: When you rotate an image, it’s often not done as an actual movement of data, but as an added EXIF tag. “Take this image and display it at this angle.”

    EXIF tags can store a lot of malicious shit like the GPS location of your photo, so lemmy aggressively strips them out. Better take your photos the right way from the start and/or use a robust photo manipulation software that will actually rearrange the data instead of adding a tag.

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      I hope Lemmy doesn’t strip all EXIF tags… There’s important things in there about colour, copyright, etc that should be kept.

      I’ve encountered the same issue as OP where Lemmy was incorrectly rotating an image, and I couldn’t figure out how to fix it. It worked perfectly fine on other sites that strip personal EXIF data like Reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc; it was just Lemmy that was unhappy.

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        Lemmy is much more aggressive about it than the other sites you mentioned. Dunno what to tell you since you’re hoping otherwise, but that’s what’s going on.

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        I hope Lemmy doesn’t strip all EXIF tags

        So far as I know it does. Otherwise why strip the rotation data?

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    Funfact, printer ink costs 20-50€ per Liter for the manufacturer and is often solled for over 5000€ a liter!

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    Get a basic Brother B/W láser printer.

    With $15 you can buy a 1,000 page generic toner, and a 500 pack of paper.

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      I’ve printed a few hundred pages with the starter toner they said would only last 30 pages, and just disabled the warning

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        That’s fancy, mine is rather new (2y) and just prints even if the cartridge is empty, doesn’t complain at all.

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      Like I said in one of the previous comments, I would love to buy laser printer, but sometimes we still need to print at home with colors.

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        Pray tell what exactly do you have to print in colory, and how often. Most of color printing can be offloaded to a print shop.

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          My mother is teacher and she needs to often print at home (when she is not at the school anymore). Print shop would be the best option, but we are in country side and driving almost an hour to nearest city is just not worth.

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            We are mostly discussing color printers for personal use tho, for work (doesn’t matter if at home or at the office) it obviously doesn’t matter as it’s required to do your job properly.

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      This…I invested in an Ecotank ET-15000 and it’s been amazing. Much cheaper models available, but the upfront cost is worth the hit if you do a lot of printing. The family hasn’t even managed to put a dent in the original tank supply. A full load is rated at something like 9000 pages.

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        Yeah the ink lasts for ages as long as your not doing power print head cleanings frequently

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    Shit like this is why I refuse to have a printer in my house. Between the exorbitant prices for fucking INK, the suspense of “will it actually work?” each time I print something, and the printer itself usually sounding like two geriatric robots fucking, I don’t need that kind of negativity in my life.

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      This is why I moved to a brother laser printer years ago. No drm on their toner it’s a dry medium for printing. Everything is enclosed with in the printer so nothing gets covered in dust when sitting for too long. Oh and the best part is I get two xl toner that print 3k pages each for 20. Literally the first time I had to replace the toner the printer already paid for itself just in the savings.

      She may be basic as fuck but for pushing 10 years of service. I wouldn’t trade her for anything else.

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          They do make colour laser printers - but in the past 5 years, I’ve needed to print in colour maybe 3 times, and I just took it to the copy shop where it’d be better quality than I can do at home anyway.

          Almost all the printing I do is either stuff to sign like contracts or boarding passes / tickets, and those are moving digital more and more.

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          Brother makes fantastic color laser printers too. I’ve had mine for 11 years, replaced the toner carts on it twice. They are NOT cheap - $200ish for cymk - but you’ll get years of prints from them. It’s not a photoprinter, but the resolution on it is great. Handles the whole family’s print work, easy to access, no driver bullshit, just works out of the box.

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            I would rather pay a little bit more for toner if it works. I am serously thinking about color laser printer when my printer stops wokring. I was looking at some brother color laser printer for around 250€ which is not a lof if this stuff works. Photo quality isn’t important for me, so I thinks this could work for us.

            EDIT: Also, what about scanner? Does those laser printers have an scanner option?

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              Mine did not, not sure what’s out there 13 years later. TBH, I have a flatbed scanner I used when my dad died (scanning photos) then when my wife’s grandmother died (again) and then when my mom died (again scanning photos). Basically, it stays unplugged until unfortunate phone calls come in the middle of the night. If I need to ‘scan’ a doc my phone does a fine job.

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        I had a Brother laser printer for a long ass time. I asked for it for a gift for either Christmas or my birthday as a teen because I’m a dweeb. It had an awesome feature called something like “continue print” or “print continue” or something that would force the printer to attempt to print even if your toner was low.

        I think nowadays I’ve heard even Brother’s newer models don’t have this feature and will force you to replace the toner when it’s low instead of just going until it physically can’t anymore.

        But after many years, the print head started printing funky and blotchy even with fresh toner and even after attempting to clean and fiddle with the corona wire. I’m sure someone that knew more than me could have figured it out eventually.

        I was graduating from grad school at the time and just ended up chucking it in the bin when I moved, but it pained me a bit to do so considering how much of a tank it was. After I graduated I rarely need to print anything and usually just run to a print shop instead.

        I wholeheartedly recommend Brother laser printers from the time, but I can’t say whether or not modern ones are as good or not.

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      Buy a brother. They cost more but they are no bullshit printers - I’ll never buy any other brand

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        Yep. The xerox one I got has done pretty well too. No drivers to download, for any device or OS in my home network. Shit just works.

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      I still got and older HP one that takes cheap refills. Screw you HP. I don’t know what I’d do if that thing breaks. Luckily it only ever gets used like 2 or 3 times each year.

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        HP isn’t the only company that makes printers.

        Fun fact: it’s really only HP that pulls this shit. Buy a printer from literally any other company and you’ll be fine.

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      Look into epson ecotank printers

      You fill up ink tanks on the printer from bottles of ink

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    All of you who say you never print anything must not have kids. We have to print stuff for my daughter’s school fairly regularly. Even now that assignments are generally turned in on her Chromebook.

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      Nah, we’re not saying we never print anything. School & work are the main reasons you’ll need a printer. However, the thing is nobody needs to print consistently. Even on a whole family of five I’ve lived in, I doubt we printed more than 5 or 10 papers per month, and that was maximum. Not to mention we live in a place where it takes 30-45 minutes to go to a school (and libraries? They don’t exist lmao) and print shops are expensive.

      The fact of the matter is the usefulness of a printer is is mainly due to being able to keep it around to print on demand for essentially free (how many times have you used up all the ink in the cartridge, really?) Nobody can ever predict whenever they need to print, it just happens. The second you attach it to an overpriced subscription service where the public will absolutely not use all of their “monthly papers” is when they all leave your brand like birds in the winter, and especially if they live somewhere more fortunate than we do, just go to your local school or library.

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        Oh I’m not justifying the subscription bullshit. There are just multiple people in this thread who are suggesting there’s no reason to own a printer.

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      What grades does this start? I’ve got to prepare for it. Is it an ad hoc requirement, or is it known partially in advance can I run some test papers as work every once in a while to cover printing needs?

      How are parents without printers doing it? Local library?

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        We’ve been printing stuff since first grade, although admittedly she didn’t get a Chromebook until fifth grade and printing has been less.

        That said, I’m sure they have accommodations for parents who don’t have printers. It’s probably the school themselves or the teacher (more likely since it’s probably on their dime) wanting to save ink.

        Also, it isn’t 100% necessary for this reason, but it’s really helpful to have a printer when doing posterboard projects for things like labels.

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    Meanwhile at home we’re using Canon tank printer for which starter inks should be enough for about 3 years, and retail ones are dirt cheap, like $10 each for like 100ml average

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    What kind of demented toddler would even buy a printer attached to a subscription service? Printing is the definition of a thing that you do so sporadically and randomly it’s almost questionable to even get one. If you have some kind of cheap printing shop, school, or library super close by to you, then it’s not even a competition. The whole reason people buy printers and ink cartridges is so they can print something on demand at any time for essentially free (besides the odd time you might need another cartridge, which is even rarer to happen).

    If someone buys a freaking “printer subscription month”, I guarantee, they’ll print one, MAYBE two papers, and not use the rest of it. Then repeat the cycle every time you need to print. $15 well spent, huh?

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      It’s not quite that bad (yet…) - it has reasonably clearly labelled subscription and non-subscription cartridges. So when you cancel the subscription, you just throw the non-subscription cartridge back in.

      If you’re printing quite a lot, but not enough to justify a laser printer, then they can work out okay. The vast majority of people would indeed be wasting money though.

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    For a second or two I thought that you didn’t even get any actual ink. I had seen a post about multi-function printers refusing to scan if you’re out of ink, and I thought perhaps you could buy a card with an unlock code for such situations (hence “instant ink”). That’s not too unbelievable these days though, is it?

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      Don’t give them ideas. They could send you a default cartridge to top it up, then only allow you to print when your have an active subscription.

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    So glad I have never had to print anything off at home for over a half decade now. The family printer might not be getting much use anymore, but it sure beats subscribing to use the device you purchased.

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      Same I rarely print . Have a brother colour laser these days (they’re quite reasonably priced compared to a few years ago) and the toner isn’t going to go bad through non-use like an inkjet would

      Had an HP inlet a while back… the ink dried up and blocked the head. The HP official solution was the head was nonreplaceable and you had to buy a new printer. So I did, but never would I buy HP again.