• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Hahha, okay that’s pretty funny.

    One slight exaggeration from Biden and then 20 examples of dumps misleading or outright lying through tangential statements that don’t answer the debate question.

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      5 days ago

      I loved most when Trump said “We’re no longer respected as a country. They don’t respect our leadership. They don’t respect the United States anymore."

      It’s like he’s dissing himself. As a European I can confidentially tell you, that there is a lot less respect towards the US because you are about to elect this Imbecil a freaking second time!

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        He’s all delusion.

        He barely won the first time (Don’t get me wrong. It’s insane that he won it all) and he has much worse prospects this time.

        I’ll be very surprised if he gets elected again.

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          I really hope you are right. But I remember everyone saying the same the first time around.

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            I was outside of the country at the time, and From the outside it seemed pretty obvious Trump was going to win.

            But talking to everyone inside the US, they believed hillary was going to win, since "polls told them that.

            This time, nobody is taking anything for granted, Trump is a felon, he’s half a billion dollars in the bag and he still has dozens of felony charges against him.

            Anyone that was on the fence knows from his first term that he didn’t follow through on any of his campaign promises and in fact is a narcissistic greedy demagogue.

            That was not the sentiment the first time around.

            Trump’s also been directly involved in a conspiracy to defraud the national archives and election officials, so everyone’s ready for him to try to steal this election also.

            In 2016, nobody took him seriously.

            People definitely take him seriously now as a threat, and he’s been found liable for rape, treason, election fraud, became a convicted felon and he doesn’t have much money.

            It’s not a lock, but Trump is in a much weaker position than he was the first time and everyone is aware of how much of a threat he is.

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                Yes, the election has not yet been determined.

                Thank goodness we’ve established how elections work.

                “Trump could win”

                Biden could win.

                Ground rules laid down.

                You’re really digging into the tough analyses here. Any other insights?

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      I’m not sure which article I read, I can’t find the quote… but the punchline was Biden won in terms of policy points; Trump won in terms of looking sharp and mentally acute.

      The very deeply unfortunate fact is that the majority of voters will likely not fact check the debate. They’ll just walk away thinking Trump is the better candidate based on that performance.

      Biden better fucking come hard as fuck in September.

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        A majority of voters don’t watch the debates. A majority of Trump voters know he’s a liar and love that about him. The reality of the situation is that we need to convince everyone else to go vote for Biden. Ignore the talking points coming from the right and the propaganda machine. Both men have been president, and only one of them has been impeached and convicted of crimes related to it. That should be the only thing we hear from the Biden campaign between now and the election. Biden is not a convicted felon.