How do Japanese live this long?

  • If it’s being close to nature, then many countries have beautiful isolated area from modern life.
  • If it’s about diet, then what’s so special? African countries have simple and natural diet too, why doesn’t that work?
  • hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    If you want a chaotic answer to this, Yes Theory has made 2 episodes specifically on a region in Japan and Italy where people get really old.

    Spoiler: their conclusion was happiness and a little bit of carelessness, but the video included a lot of different aspects.

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      Stress is the ultimate killer, and I agree with the statement that people who are happy and able to be a little careless will live long lives

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      11 months ago

      Japan has a pretty high suicide rate and they dedicate most of their life’s to work as far as I know. Doesn’t sound too happy to me.

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        11 months ago

        Japanese corporate culture is actually a relatively modern development, so a lot of older people in Japan have never experienced it.

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        It’s possible there’s a regional or generational gap there. If you’re pushing 110 you probably haven’t worked in 40 years. You could even argue that the ones literally working themselves to death are the very ones paying for the older generation’s happy carefree lifestyle.

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        That’s a more recent phenomenon. These folk were retiring just as that culture was taking off.

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        11 months ago

        I wonder more the average life expectancy or even the percentiles. What the max age does 90 percent of the population reach.

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    11 months ago

    first of all, you gotta be a lady

    then they say fish helps a lot apparently

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        11 months ago

        Hey now, we only know that pfas cause nerological disorders in children and that they don’t go away and are difficult/expensive to filter at scale, maybe they make you live forever, too.

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    11 months ago

    If it’s about diet, then what’s so special? African countries have simple and natural diet too, why doesn’t that work?

    Quality of life in Japan vs an African country isn’t comparable. It’s a combination of a healthier diet and higher standard of living. Also, it isn’t unlikely that some of those people’s ages aren’t accurate.

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    11 months ago

    One theory I saw recently which no one has yet discussed is their higher average step count. Walking is good for you.

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      11 months ago

      Also the whole missing centenarians thing they have going. 100+ year old people that haven’t been seen or heard from in years or even decades still marked as alive when most are long dead.

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    11 months ago

    They don’t eat McDonald’s for every meal and argue for every conversation.

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    11 months ago

    Historically, a lot of walking and eating home-cooked meals that were high in veggies and fermented foods and probably eating lots of seafood and seaweed with other proteins being less frequent.

    Milk wasn’t even a part of school lunches until after the war, so people still kicking from the pre-war times mostly grew up without it.

    I suspect, though, that life expediencies here are going to drop. Lots of fried food and such these days and I see more and more obese people.

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      11 months ago

      Yep everyone will trot out their favorite health gimmick to answer this. Or highlight their favorite narrow aspect of Japanese culture or lifestyle. But genetics is the overwhelming factor, much though that serves no one’s narrative.

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    11 months ago

    I had some relatives that lied about their birth date making them seem older so that they could join the arm forces (strange, if things like that were possible now it would be younger to escape them). Maybe some of these people at 14 suddenly became 18 year Olds to fight in WW2 or the Russian-Japan war before that.

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      So the 112 year old is instead a youthful 108?

      We have folks in the US that also lied about their age. They’re almost all dead now. So… Yeah.

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    11 months ago

    the composite last names of both the italians is typical of ancient, rich and maybe noble families, so at least for them it might be money.

  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    There’s a bunch of books theorizing on this topic.

    Theres even a site about these “Blue Zones”.

    Unfortunately we don’t have enough data. Maybe around the 2300, we can have a real answer. But nothing in our lifetimes.

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      11 months ago

      “I’m not dead yet!” “He says he’s not dead” “Well, he’s mostly dead.”