You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.

They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.

I share a lot of my experience here.

https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel

My question is, my computer is hacked by them and they are privy to my computer activity – as in, right now, they’re seeing me type this post. How can I get these rats out of my computer? I just run Windows 11.

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    Assuming everything you’re saying is true, the reason the honeypot existed in the first place is because incel communities often tend to spawn domestic terrorists.

    If you’re looking for any kind of sympathy, even if only enough to get folks to give you useful advice, “I’m an incel and my incel activities got me on a government watchlist” is about as likely to get you sympathy as “I’m a nazi and my nazi activities got me on a government watchlist.”

    My recommendation: get therapy.

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      This is really strange. The Nazis did unspeakable crimes against humanity. In the nearly 20 year existence of the manosphere – almost the entirety of which arose (I claim) as a result of emergent polygyny – there have been just a handful of manosphere related shootings. So your analogy doesn’t fly and is laughable. Of course, maybe you see incels as Nazis, but then that would just speak to your own hysterical prejudice and distaste, not reality. You vindicate the “precrime” civil liberties violating program that goes by the name of “Countering Violent Extremism” which entirely goes after people for their 1st amendment protected speech. You’re more destructive than any incel will ever be.

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        Nazism is also an ideology. If you subscribe to Nazism and agree with what Nazis did you’re a Nazi. That doesn’t mean you have to do anything.

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        Shooting someone is not the only harm that can happen. There are countless assaults (domestic, sexual, verbal, etc) every year that occur due to extremism such as being an “incel”. Also you sound paranoid and have offered no evidence what you say is true. If you really are being spied on by the government the only way to stop that is to destroy your electronic devices (drill holes in the harddrives), move as far as you can (preferably russia or china), and never post publicly on the internet again.

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    I appreciate that you feel you’re being oppressed wrongly because you’re sad that you can’t get a girl, but perhaps going to hang out with people who tend to be extremists, adopting their beliefs, and then complaining that the government watches people who do this… Like everyone else is saying, you need therapy my dude. Where you are right now is not a safe state of mind.

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        HAHAHAHAHAHA. Nah bro, that’s just what feds put out there to deflect attention from themselves and the claims of people whose civil liberties they violate. After all, which faction in society has the most capability to engage in “gang-stalking”? Feds. So the claim that it’s “gang-stalking” is kind of true. Yes, gang-stalking by feds.

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    Buy a burner phone/data plan in cash. Learn a linx distro like mint. Junk your current devices and learn about TOR. Buy a pc in cash. Use something like tailsOS when browsing.

    With that all being said, you’re being blackpilled. You need to seek help. Incel ideology is a form of extremism just like auth communism or nazism. Its dangerous for you and those around you. I implore you to find better role models in your life. There are healthy spaces online for men like yourself who feel wronged. The world is not made up of chads and stacies and roasties. Thats 4chan nonsense that seeks to blackpill and harm impressionable young men like you and I.

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    Anything you post on the internet you should treat as public and permanent. Before you post, ask yourself “could this come back to bite me?” If the answer is yes, It’s probably not wise to post it to a public forum. I do believe that organizations, businesses, and various aspects of the government monitor online activity. You would be wise to limit what ”wrong-think” you decide to post.

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      I didn’t post under my real name. I thought it was a free country. I thought if the country was so free as to allow emergent polygyny, then it would just as free to allow critique of that development. I guess I was wrong and the current so called “globohomo” regime is using brute power to repress dissidents.

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            1. Kbin and Lemmy are two of the most liberal hosting software. It’s slightly literal in this specific instance which is literally Lemmy.Marxist-Leninist. While implementations of that ideology often aren’t liberal the ideology itself is. Post such stuff on 𝕏 if you want people who might actually “help” you.
            2. Pologyny is a crime in the US. Just that a man is really attractive doesn’t mean they engage in such activity. Such men also have personality characteristics that prevent them from doing “serial monogamy”. In the case of Johnny Carson, having 4 wives over 56 years isn’t “serial monogamy” either.
            3. You don’t need to have sex to have children. You can always adopt.
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    You feel that fire deep in your belly? That unique rage that convinces you that not only are you correct about this, but that it is a uniquely important issue and nobody can tell you otherwise? THAT VERY FEELING SHOULD BE YOUR RED FLAG TO RE-EXAMINE WHAT YOU’RE WRITING, BOTH HERE AND ANY OTHER TIME YOU FEEL IT.

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    Try to step away from your bias here and look at what you’ve written objectively, as if you’re reading someone else’s writing. Does that person seem rational and logical or does it seem like they’ve jumped to conclusions? Set that aside and ask yourself, besides this are there things in your life that are bothering you that you’d like help with? As suggested elsewhere, this may be an excellent time to consider therapy and focus on some self care.

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    Everything else aside, you do see what you’re asking, right? This is basically “hey guys, I know I’m being actively tracked by security agencies (but I’m not a threat, trust me). How do I get rid of these trackers? Does anybody have any tips and tricks I can follow to get security agencies off my back?”. Again, without getting into any of the context, what do you expect to get here? What kind of person would reply with “sure I gotchu, here’s a list of tools I regularly use to keep cops distracted from whatever it is I do on the internet”?

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      What defense is there against NSA tools like Pegasus? I’m not kidding when I say they use my phone as a recorder to capture my interactions in the wild (in addition to having people from fusion centers follow me around.)

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        if you know your computer and phone are compromised, i would think the solution is obvious, stop using them.

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      You posted a piece of incel propaganda combined with a conspiracy theory and an extremely general request for malware help.

      Too many red flags.

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        I was providing context – who the threat is, my situation, etc. If I was posting “incel propaganda” I would have made incelish points – instead I described what happened and the situation I was in. I even named the program: Countering Violent Extremism which is really just “precrime.” Also, since feds are privy to my online activity in real-time, whose to say they aren’t brigading this thread?

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            Whenever someone who comes under the precrime “Countering Violent Extremism” program airs their complaints like I did, invariably there’s someone like you – usually a fed – who says just this sort of thing in order to paint the person as schizo. I ain’t a schizo. I posted on incels.is. It’s a DHS honeypot forum that’s comprised entirely of larping feds and the naïve incel users in fact never see posts by people like themselves. This was my experience. I am not lying. If it didn’t happen to me I couldn’t have dreamt it up.

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              I’m not a mental health professional, so I’m going to refrain from saying or suggesting anything further, except that you should consider talking to a professional about your experiences.

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          Your references to psychology being conditioning of the female agenda, a “Globohomo” regime, and demonstrating an upset over any non-traditional marriage typing like polygamy (of any kind) are all incel points. Your refusal of genuine assistance as part of your paranoid worldview unless it matches your preconceptions is suggestive of not genuinely seeking assistance but rather affirmation that you are correct in your assumptions.

          Please disabuse yourself of these notions. Humans can barely make governments function to their actual purpose. Getting hundreds of thousands of people to operate lockstep in complete secrecy is borderline impossible.

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      you sound a little unhinged, but thats ok! Crazy people need information security too!