• buycurious@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Reminds me on this chemist joke:

    A man brought his chemist friend to the bar for a drink with the other friends. When asked what he wanted, the chemist decided that since she’s the designated driver, she’ll order water. “I’ll have some H20, please!” the chemist said, with the man replying “I’ll have some H20 too!”

    The man died of ingesting hydrogen peroxide.

    • HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      And the joke’s alternative anti joke punchline:

      The bartender served them both water, because he fully understands everyday human interaction and translated the request as intended.

        • dustyData@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          The bartender didn’t mind, since he has a sense of humor and understood he worked in an entertainment facility where people derive fun from saying and doing goofy things with friends and acquaintances, and this isn’t even be the weirdest thing he has heard a patron say this week.

  • Philharmonic3@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 month ago

    I learned a rhyme once that’s relevant:

    Danny was a scientist, but now he is no more, for what he thought was H2O, was H2SO4

    • Umbrias@beehaw.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I mean, unless I’m missing something it should be fine as long as you get salts another way.

      • notacat@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Correct. I have no idea why people are freaking out over drinking water. We constantly eat and drink things that have wildly different osmolarity than our cells and yet here we still are. Our stomach and intestinal mucosa cells are not going to burst if we accidentally drink a milkshake (a hyperosmotic solution).

        • Umbrias@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          So exactly what I said. Balance it with other salts and you’re fine. Most water doesn’t have enough salts to balance your system anyway, that’s called saline, and you would notice if you drank it.

          Pure water is fine and will have no significant difference to any given generally safe tap water.

          • Knusper@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            The relevant part is that distilled water + osmosis makes cells burst. So, we’re talking about tiny injuries, not just some mineral inbalance.

            As far as I understand, once it’s in your stomach, it’ll get dilluted and then it really is just water with too few minerals. But on the way into your stomach, it can cause damage.

            We likely don’t have scientific data on how much/frequently you’d have to drink it for the body to not counter-heal enough. But yeah, just don’t drink distilled water.

            • Umbrias@beehaw.org
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              OK let’s break this down.

              Distilled water will not in fact do any of this at a tiny l level. For one, again, the difference between distilled water and tap water in terms of osmolarity is actually pretty much insignificant.

              For two, your mouth, and esophagus have mucus linings making this entirely moot as far as water is concerned.

              For three, distilled water is far and away the least stressful thing your body ever deals with, eating something even moderately salty is far far more “dangerous” to your cells than drinking distilled water. Ever eat a potato chip?

              Third, your cells actively resist osmotic pressure changes as necessary. You have to go pretty hard and actually change the salinity of your blood to have any noticeable effects.

              Fourth, your cells are actively being replenished with good salinity blood.

              Fifth, we are very insensitive to salinity changes in our blood. Blood salinity shifts quite a bit and regularly throughout the day.

              Sixth, a benefit of being a multicellular organism is that we don’t care much about any individual cell. Your mouth cells die and are replenished nearly the fastest of any set of tissue in the body. Your mouth in general is very much built to handle all sorts of harsh conditions. Chemically distilled water is nothing. I guarantee you 100% that if you drank distilled water every day for your entire life, and made sure to eat a normal diet which was not extremely low in salts, you would be fine.

              Let’s discuss non multicellular organisms for a moment as well: the salinity of fresh water is very low. That’s the point of distinguishing it. Plenty of organisms live just fine in it. If you drank those organisms, many of them could also get you sick, as in live inside you, a pool of water with much higher salinity. Cells have ways to maintain homeostasis and respond to their environment. That’s literally what they do.

              No I don’t think there is research on this specific subject. Are you starting to see why there isn’t much worry on microdosing distilled water?

      • Chais@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Probably tasting remarkably bland and would likely mess with your electrolyte and mineral levels.

          • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Like in the other comments, you can drink distilled water as long as you only drink a “normal amount”.

            It’s still an interesting thing to know, that you actually starve when drinking large quantities of distilled water (well, in theory since you have other stuff in your body that enriches the water with minerals anyway).

            Through osmosis the cells on your mucosae will try to equalise the mineral content between the water and themselves. But since distilled water has no minerals they will take in so much water that they burst.

            If you would drink liters and liters of distilled water, the cells responsible for taking in minerals will all be gone and you starve long-term.

            Short-term you die from organ failure anyway, with your body desperately trying to keep in the minerals. This is the same as the good old water intoxication. Just that you reach that threshold faster with distilled water.