Anyone who willfully uses a slotted screw on a new project in the presence of even somewhat reasonable alternatives should have a lifetime ban on designing any items for anyone.
Also, use Robertsons, gink.
it’s single valid use: somewhere that you may not have tools but might require an impromptu fix… preferably paired with a much larger screw than technically required so you can use things like coins as a driver
Fuck electrical wall plates I guess then? It’s so hard to find any switch plates or device plates that come with Phillips instead of Slotted.
Yeah fuck them, i hate those stupid slippery slotted bastards
Torx is the only head that needs to exist. The rest can go fuck a rusty chainsaw.
Square is really good too.
Phillips and flat head bits fit in a variety of sizes of screw heads. We seem to have chosen convenience over performance.
If memory serves me correctly square drive is patented, & thus requires licensing, which is why it’s less commonly used.
Situation: There are 20 screw standards.
John Corporate: “20 standards… I know, I’ll create a new type of screw that will be unique to my corporate overlords and prevent users from repairing their own devices!”
Situation: There are 21 screw standards.
Americans will do anything the hardest way possible, huh lol
Robbie superiority.
Torx is great but fuck security torx
phillips worst screw self stripping garbage
That is actually a feature of this design. They were the answer to in-line screwdrivers who had no precise stopping torque: cam-out before the thread is damaged.
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
I know it’s an intentional feature, but it’s a bad feature. Camming out damages the head of the screw. This exchanges repairability for manufacturing simplicity. Additionally, the sloped shape makes it possible to use slightly oversized or undersized drivers, further increasing the chance of camming out and damaging the screwhead.
Robertson, hex and torx should be on that list, the rest of that shit can stay in the scrap bin of designs
Square drive on personal projects, forever and always. Maybe I’m buying the wrong torx, Phillips, and flat screws, but they strip out way too often. I’ve never had issues with square drive screws no matter where or how I use them
Yup, anytime I’m driving into solid wood, it’s square head screws. Phillips heads slip out under the stress and end up stripped.
Look at the history of Phillips screws. They’re designed to torque out. Automobile assembly line workers can’t be trusted to not overtighten them
Bug turned into a feature: https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
The torx are the most resistant, the rest can also cease to exist.
I hate phillips. It seems like their only purpose for existing is to strip out so that you can never remove them.
Personally, any time I have a project, I always opt for torx (star). The screwdriver bits for them are not tapered so they don’t push themselves back out of the screw-head (unlike phillips), so they tend to stay in place and grip much better. It’s a lot harder to screw up a torx screw or bit than a phillips one.
Same. I use torx for everything. Also gotta love the square Robertson ones, they’re just not common where I live. I hate Philips, although for anyone not aware, there is a difference between posi drive an Philips and going to the effort of making sure you have the correct one massively reduces torquing out and damage to screw head.
I. Love. Torx! They just work! Don’t mind the angle, don’t mind the force! They’re just perfect! Never going back. (At least for everything related to woodworking)
They actually were designed to cam out in low torque applications so consumers could not over-tighten them. The problem is now those consumers only know what a phillips is, so they’re used for everything.
Hilariously, that “purposeful cam-out” was the manufacturers/patent-holders trying to turn a bug into a feature. https://handwiki.org/wiki/Engineering:Cam_out
Canadian here. I’m offended the Robertson (square) has been shamed like this.
Square is my favorite but never used in industrial maintenance much. The square combos are on new electrical devices for construction though. I use mostly Phillips/slotted. A few security torx. Lots of hex heads, and all the small electrical terminals are slotted.
Torx or Robertson, are the only ones worth a damn.
I’m a Philips type of guy myself.
You have chosen…poorly
Square is called a Robertson and is the standard for construction in Canada. None of that bullshit Phillips trash.
nah you can throw flathead in mental disorders too phillips is the one screw to rule them all and all those nerds can shut up about maths of why the others are technically superior that’s all great on paper but phillips is actually a thing you try using your “perfect” torx screwdriver on any scree you can’t cause none of them are torx phillips is good enough and actually used flathead isn’t even really used that much anymore it’s only slightly less rare than the others and it just plain sucks
Phillips is terrible, it’s literally designed to cam-out, which means it strips if the screw has got seized in position.
Pozidrive is a million times better than Phillips.
