cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/9159186
Various nuggets of interest in this survey of Gen Z and millennials
Gen X woman here. Listening to Joe Rogan is a red flag.
Why?
Honest question. I don’t listen to the pod cast but I watch some of the clips on YouTube and have never really found anything to be too incendiary. The podcast seems to be as about as interesting as who ever the guest that week is.
Why is this comment the dumbest I’ve ever heard? Many people are talking about this. Lots of people are saying that this person might have been trying to push an agenda. I’m just asking questions here. Questions that I could look up and find the answer to but that’s not the point of the podcast. The podcast is to discuss interesting topics, like this comment, maybe being the dumbest comment. Let’s bring on our guest, someone who has nothing to do with the topic, but is full of opinions. Again, this is a topic we could easily research but that’s not the point of the podcast, the point of the podcast is just to talk, just to ask questions and have a conversation, an intellectual conversation with other men, and hot girls of course! Anyway bitches amirite?
— Broseph Jogan, paraphrased from every podcast.
Sometimes I wonder how much the repeated concussions had a part in this.
Also you got me at Broseph Jogan x)
Sounds like you listen to a lot of his podcast
It’s accurate isn’t it? And no, I really don’t. This is just what I pick up from clips. But I tell you… I don’t know why anyone would fill a 3-4 hour podcast each day with “We’re just asking questions which can easily be answered”?
No wait, I don’t know why anyone would listen to that podcast. I get why the format exists - it’s easier to fill 3-4 hours with bs.
And they’d be right
Who’s the 2 people saying that reading is a red flag lmao
Insecure people that are scared of being made to feel stupid, I imagine.
For women, top red flags include identifying as a MAGA Republican, having no hobbies, saying “All Lives Matter” and that there are only two genders, being so unbothered they never ask for details, identifying as a communist, listening to Joe Rogan, identifying as a conservative, refusing to see the Barbie movie, and not caring about politics.
For men, top red flags are identifying as a communist, having no hobbies, identifying as a MAGA Republican, being so unbothered they never ask for details, saying “All Lives Matter”, and being into astrology.
Sorry hexbear users, you’re on the no list for everyone
That’s okay Waifu pillows come with implied consent
tbh
- 70yrs of red scare
- anything left of center (and I’m being generous here) is labelled a communist regardless of actual political affiliation
oh yeah, for sure. What’s sort of funny to me is that as I’ve learned more about socialism (and capitalism, by extent), I’ve talked with people about socialist principles and they agree with me up until the point that I use a “trigger word” that makes them think of socialism and then they’re like, “Well wait up now, I’m not talking about full on socialism here.” Yeah, you don’t want “socialism” the word, but you agreed with every talking point that came from it.
But on the other hand, the self-declared communists I’ve met have always been weird, but they were also the ones who told everyone without being asked lol
Joe Rogan is Goop for Men.
So men are desperate but afraid of communism… and black people… and astrology?
I understand astrology very much. I dont understand how it even gained such popularity.
A few of those are concerning. Owning a gun: 46% of the guys: HELL JEA!!
Man not having a hobby isn’t exactly a choice…
Yeah but 100% of women are over 55% crazy.
Why should I trust changeresearch.com?
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/change-research
To me, that is just words on a server somewhere.
Nice thing about getting an SO is that you really only need one person
Weird to see so many lemm.ee users gloating over this when 64% of men and 55% of women see identifying as a communist as a red flag also.
It’s because saying you’re a communist usually means you also think the horrors commited by Russia/USSR/China etc are either fake or justified. People who are really just in favor of common ownership of the means of production usually call themselves socialists or marxists.
Most communist flags are red aren’t they? It’s kinda our thing.
What’s wrong with lemm.ee members?
I guess they think we’re all communist because we’re not right wing extremists.
Meanwhile Hexbear thinks we’re all goose stepping fascists because we don’t unilaterally approve of the genocide of the ughyurs and celebrate the peaceful protests at that square place
With a yellow hammer and sickle in the middle.
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It’s not a hardline, red flag is a warning. Something to be cautious of and aware of.
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Rogan is a stupid, reactionary man, who often uses his vast reach to spread provably false information. Anyone who watches him unironically is highly likely to also be stupid and reactionary.
I can understand how someone would feel personally attacked by that statement or the news that many people view it as a red flag if they’re a Joe Rogan fan.
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I haven’t really watched anything since he went to Spotify
Says it all really. Maybe you should watch some of his Spotify material and inform your opinion on his current output instead of his past output.
I also used to enjoy watching his show. It was often interesting, with a wide variety of guests. I do not enjoy watching his show anymore due to the kind of people he regularly platforms, and the false info he spreads; vaccines, ivermectin, cat litter spring to mind. My own fucking dad here in the UK fell victim to his bullshit after hearing a quote about kids wanting to be cats that turned out to be regurgitated bullshit spread by Rogan. That to me was the the final straw, how someone so disconnected from those circles could be exposed to Rogan disinfo, and a warning light that his disinfo has a worrying reach.
I don’t really care about conspiracy theories
You should care more. Conspiracy theories killed people during the pandemic. Conspiracy theories bolster Russia.
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Can I see the red flag rates on liking Amy Schumer? Some of these polls are so fucking stupid.
I also need to know why “All Lives Matter” is such a big deal when you’re using it in a way that negates marginalizing any group?
All is far more inclusive.
If you are actually interested in an answer, I can try to explain. Think of the black experience in America (police brutality, institutionalized racism etc) as a house that’s on fire. Imagine it’s your house, and you call the fire dept and you tell them “hey my house is on fire i need help!” and instead of helping they say “why is your house special in particular? All houses are important so why should we devote resources just to yours!” It’d be pretty stupid. Of course all houses should matter, but there’s one in particular right now that needs special attention and help. That’s all black lives matter means; it’s saying hey this group in particular needs our help and we’re calling attention to it.
I know it’s not a perfect metaphor but hopefully you get the idea. It admittedly is not the best messaging because without some context and critical thinking it seems exclusionary. Really the inplication of the phrase is “black lives matter (as much as white lives)” or even just “black lives matter (too)”. But neither of those are as snappy as slogans so they wouldn’t have worked. It’s the same way the feminism is about gender equality, not putting women above men.
Consider also that “all lives matter” doesn’t exist in a vacuum but instead came about as a response to people saying blm. At best “all lives matter” is a completely unhelpful response from people who completely miss the point of saying blm, but for a lot of bigots out there it’s intentional misappropriation of the phrase meant convey to black people that they should just shut the fuck up and accept the status quo. So it’s a red flag because the people who typically say it are either racists or ignorant of black struggle. “All lives matter” is often times a dogwhistle for the alt-right.
Imagine you go to a pot luck. You spend some time on your dish, and bring your slow cooker. You end up near the back of the food line. By the time that you make it all the way to the front, the food is all completely gone. You realize that some people have taken two, three, four plates. Some of those same people didn’t even bring a dish of their own. And they’ve loudly stated that they won’t be able to eat all of the food they got.
You say to the group “hey, I deserve some food.” They turn to you, and with a tone of derision reply “we all deserve some food.”
Imagine you’re hanging out these two girls but you only have one cup
Because saying “All Lives Matter” means you completely missed the entire point of BLM. It’s a red flag for ignorance and stupidity in that way. “Black lives matter” doesn’t mean…and never meant…that only black lives matter so ALM is correcting something that doesn’t need to be corrected.
People might have understood it more readily if they’d said “black lives matter too” but that’s a really weak statement when you’re talking about the right to exist. Their lives matter, period. It’s a more forceful statement but was not meant to exclude any others’ lives. That’s extremely obvious to most people.
The fact that there’s been plenty of time to understand it since then means that the people who think “all lives matter” is a good thing to say are engaging in willful ignorance in a callous way. That’s why it’s a red flag. It’s a true statement…but it only needs to be said if you’re someone who really didn’t get it in the first place.
The best way to describe why only a brainless moron would say All Lives Matter is to compare it to firefighting.
Imagine one house is on fire and the firefighters come and start dousing the other houses. You’re like, hey dipshits those houses aren’t on fire. And the firefighters are like, yeah, but all houses matter.
This is hilarious and a great comparison. Thanks, I’ll be mentioning this in the future
I also need to know why “All Lives Matter” is such a big deal when you’re using it in a way that negates marginalizing any group?
Except it’s not used that way. Imagine if there was a group that, every time anyone said “remember 9/11” responded with “remember all buildings.” The message is “the problems that you face and are trying to bring specific attention to aren’t worthy of attention”
