Palestine kills 40 imaginary kids, libs bay for blood. The zionist entity kills 1000, “Israel is our greatest ally.”
They only care about white kids apparently
Death to israel
I cant see other comments?
I think they got banned after asking why we support a ‘reverse genocid’
If you click ‘chat’ next to ‘hot/top/new/old’ you can see the remaining comments. They’re ‘floating’ though, rather than nested in a comment chain, so one comment might not link well to the next in the order they’re presented.
Edit: if you then click the link icon next to any particular comment, you can view it in its original chain and click ‘view context’ to see the previous comment (until you get to the deleted comment, when the messages disappear again).
Speaking of somebody who joined the sub because they’re pro-Palestinian freedom, anti-apartheid. This post subject I can’t get behind.
When you say death to Israel, do you mean death to all Israeli citizens? Or just the end of the government? I think a change in the government is necessary, but reverse genocide is just as bad as normal genocide.
No one is calling for reverse genocide. People here want a Palestine where Jews and Arabs can live together as equal beings, and that requires death of the state of Israel, not of the people of Israel
I interpreted as “Death to (the concept of) Israel”, as in the country is illegitimate and should be dissolved and returned to its rightful inhabitants.
Fair. But I think given the other comments I cannot be a member of this community anymore.
Would you mind providing a link to what comment is bothering you?
There is no country called Rhodesia, does that mean every Rhodesian was murdered?
I keep coming back to Rhodesia because that’s exactly what Israel is.
Yes, there’s no such thing as Rhodesians today so they must have been genocided /s
From another article shared here in the last day:
None other than the founding father of Zionism, Theodor Herzl, recognized this elementary fact (that Zionism is inherently racist and colonial). In a 1902 letter to Cecil Rhodes — a diamond magnate and white supremacist British colonialist with oceans of African blood on his hands — Herzl, writing of “the idea of Zionism, which is a colonial idea,” requested help colonizing historic Palestine.
“It doesn’t involve Africa, but a piece of Asia Minor, not Englishmen but Jews… How, then, do I happen to turn to you since this is an out-of-the-way matter for you? How indeed? Because it is something colonial,” Herzl wrote. “I want you to… put the stamp of your authority on the Zionist plan.”
Probably decolinisation of Palestine rather than the death of individuals.
Not sure if ‘reverse genocide’ is a thing but the question was raised a few days ago in another thread if you look for it.
To add onto your comment, even Hamas doesn’t call for expulsion of all Jews from the area. Their position is that native Jews can stay - only the (mostly European) Jews who immigrated fairly recently have to go.
This is the position of the “extremist” group and other positions are more moderate. The Israeli fantasy of Jewish genocide is not well grounded.
I imagine if it came down to the practicalities of it that there wouldn’t be an attempt to wouldn’t actually try to expel everyone who settled since 1967/1948/whatever cut-off date they decided, so long as whoever stayed was willing to accept that they now lived under a new jurisdiction with none of the exceptional privileges.
I wouldn’t like to guess how many would choose to stay. I suppose we’d see how serious some were about that part of the world feeling like home by virtue of the location and it’s history rather than the fact of an Israeli government.
Assuming that it would be Hamas who did the decolonising. It might not be. And e.g. a Marxist or a secular leadership would likely have different ideas. I imagine they’d all agree on the basics: that Israel ceases to exist and a new institution/state/government is formed. (I’m phrasing it like this because when Marxists have seized power before, elsewhere, they don’t stick with the old name or the intermediate name.)
they don’t stick with the old name or the intermediate name.
To be fair, the intermediate name would somehow wind up being the Democratic People’s Republic of I̵͐̈́ͬ̑̈́̍̇̈͟͢͏̨͘͞͏̪̘̥̬̥̟̹ͅs̷̷̴̿ͯ͐ͩͯͯ̓̚͡҉͝҉̢̞̜̳̘̳̟̙̠ŗ̵͐͒̓́̒ͯ̑ͤ̀҉̡̝̭̙̩͇̫̦̤̀̀̕a̵̵̽ͨ͊ͥ̋̉ͭ̋҉̧̢̫̞̹̞̹̱̠̪̀̀͘ȩ̸̸̧̨͖̤̲̹͚̰̘̙̂̿̿̿ͥ̋͗̀͘͡͠l̸̸̨̾̈̇͛̓͛͂̽̀̕͟͠͏̵̡̩̝̠̤̭̺̟̙̌̃ͥ̌̽̏ͤͥ̕͟͠҉̸̲̟͉̲̖͎̦̺͞
What’s a “reverse genocide” supposed to be in the first place: resurrecting all the people who died in a genocide?
I don’t say this to diminish any real genocide, but to point out the danger in this phrasing.
Yes, I’m not a fan, either. For that reason and because it seems to be a grand perversion to argue that it’s genocide to fight back against the people trying to commit a genocide. If self defense becomes genocide at the point that the occupier gains the upper hand, it’s all meaningless. It would give carte blanche to any invading force that moved quickly enough and violently enough.
Maybe in other circumstances, where two indigenous neighbours try to wipe each other out? But that’s simply not the history of Palestine. Israel was created by forcibly dispossessing the previous inhabitants (who are still there or refugees elsewhere).
Maybe it would be genocide to decolonise (abolish) Palestine if Israel represented all Judaism or if more or less every Jew lived there. But neither of those is true, either. And as decolonising Palestine is not about removing Judaism but Zionist Israel, contrary to propaganda, I don’t see how genocide can apply. Again, except as a distortion of the meaning, as neither Zionism nor Israel are nations/ethnicities/religions.
Luckily the moral question is a lot more straightforward than the legal question.
Death to that state that calls itself Israel and anyone who defends it. I will not shed a tear to anyone that supports performing settler colonial ethnic cleaning of Palestinians. Regardless of if they are holding a gun. A fascist without a gun is still a fascist that wholly believes and supports slaughtering innocent people. The Palestinians are in a cage, surrounded by armed fascists that want to slaughter them like animals, and behind those armed Fascists are people that are supporting said Fascists. Any strike outward by the Palestinians is self defense, plain and simple. They have no other choice if the want to live. The world has stood by and don’t nothing while Israel just keeps killing. Meanwhile people sitting safely in their armchairs half way across the globe are bashing them that some non-combatants on the Israeli side got hit in the crossfire. Well boo fucking hoo. Those people knew what they were getting into when they took houses from Palestinians. When they say by and let the IDF keep massacring innocents. Hell most of them approve of it.
And despite this the Palestinian forces have taken more precautions against actually injuring/killing non-combatants than the IDF forces whom of which have been shown to be indiscriminately killing, even killing captured Israelis. Hamas and the Palestinian forces tried negotiating for a peaceful resolution for years. It only got them more dead innocents at the hands of the IDF.
So death to the state that calls itself Israel. Settlers can leave and give the Palestinians back their stollen land or they can stay, and either put themselves in danger and fight or try to live in peace with Palestinians, which based on the past several decades, they have no intentions of doing.
“Reverse genocide” 🤦🏿♂️
Every time I see something like this I become slightly more anti-white racist.
Israel is a state.
A fake one
Indeed!
