• curly_cuh_puh@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    If United were a serious club, Sancho would have been out of the door as soon he was openly not 100% committed to Ten Hag’s project, just as City threw out Cancelo last year. Issue being is that they’ve never had any idea where to play him or how to get the best out of him, like basically all of their signings post Ferguson.

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    11 months ago

    Ten Haag needs to rid himself and the club of Sancho. For his sake. For the club’s sake.

    Do what Klopp did with Sakho in his first season. Kick him out,make it clear, my way or get the fuck out.

    Watch that whole squad fall in line

  • mancwes78@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    City had these problems with him, that’s why he was sold. Even if he apologised tomorrow, he should still be shipped out. No one will pay him the wages he’s on at United though, so we’ll have to pay him off.

  • thwgrandpigeon@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Teacher here.

    Sancho is like that kid in high school who used to do all the work and had all the answers but hasn’t lifted a pencil in years while on thier phone not listening and now all of a sudden is realizing they have to put together a 3 page essay that was due yesterday and can’t for the life of them stitch together 5 sentences.

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      11 months ago

      I mean… With everything that’s come out I would imagine an exit is exactly what he wants at this point? It’s hardly an ultimatum.

      Surely more likely he’s already told the club he wants to leave and they’re now looking to create a narrative that is “he didn’t apologise so we moved him on”. And I’m not criticising utd here, given the hand they have right now I would also be playing those cards.

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        11 months ago

        United gonna pay at least half of his wage for a short 6 months loan and hope a Saudi club would come knocking in the summer

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          11 months ago

          I don’t think Sancho agrees to go to the Saudi League. Plenty of players have rejected moving to the Saudi League, Lukaku is one such example.

          From that Twitter post he made it sounds like he still rates himself. Fair enough, I’d really like to see how he does outside of United/EPL, people forget that Mbappe vs. Sancho was a genuine debate to be had at some point, talent like that doesn’t evaporate especially when a player has not had career ending injuries

    • taclealacarotide@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I’m not sure tbh. If he wasn’t an idiot, swallowed his pride, apologized, got his head down, trained seriously, I’d be suprised if after a while he wouldn’t get a shot again.

    • R_Schuhart@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I’m convinced he just wants out at this point. Hasn’t exactly been spectacular, Man U isnt doing as well as he would have hoped and he has created himself the image of being a lazy difficult player.

      • AbsolutShite@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Is there a win for him at United though?

        1. He apologises and United still sell him in January without playing him.

        2. He apologises and United play him. He’s shite. He gets sold later.

        3. He apologises and United play him. He’s good but his teammates aren’t. They win nothing. He tries to force a move.

        4. He apologises and United play him. They win FA Cup, Worthington Cup, and/or Europa league.

        5. He doesn’t apologise. Gets shipped out with a payoff and plays shite somewhere else. He has money and pride.

        6. He doesn’t apologise. Gets shipped out and restarts his career successfully. He has money and says I told you so.

        I don’t think all of these are equally likely but apologising probably isn’t going to work out for him at this point.

      • Dr-Purple@alien.topB
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        11 months ago

        Sancho, and England for that matter, should be a lesson for all English players abroad.

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    11 months ago

    Don’t want to him back. Bad attitude and a bad influence. He clearly doesn’t appreciate anything

  • Hatakashi@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    So, exit it is then.

    He’s got no interest in apologising because that’s essentially backtracking on calling ETH a liar, which most will generally take to mean he was lying himself.

    For all the “United is a talent graveyard” comments (and they’re not entirely untrue) it’s so frustrating to have the ‘talent’ be so lazy and unmotivated.

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      11 months ago

      The thing is a lot of talents you bought over the past years seem to be lazy and unmotivated but maybe that’s just survivorship bias on my side. It does look like there’s a lack of mental coaching going on.

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        11 months ago

        Generally people need to be motivated by something, and it seems like the club isn’t giving them much to be motivated or inspired by.

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      11 months ago

      Based on performances do you think he is lying? Like was he that bad on the pitch? iirc he had a good pre season.

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      11 months ago

      I still think there is a little bit of a pattern with talent going United and then fizzling out into nothing.

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      11 months ago

      it’s so frustrating to have the ‘talent’ be so lazy and unmotivated

      Allegedly he was having mental health issues. It’s always odd to me that people say this kind of thing, but when a player speaks out about the abuse they get and how they are treated by the public everyone jumps on the bandwagon and shows sympathy. Unmotivated maybe, but maybe he has some shit going on that makes it difficult to do his job. If I expressed that I had a mental health issue and my boss started telling people I was lazy or whatever (if he said that) ain’t no way I’m apologizing about that.

      I guess now it’s time for people to dogpile until he comes out saying he lost a cousin or something and everyone will say people were too hard.

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    11 months ago

    From a business perspective I find it so weird how openly and loudly Manchester United are shouting that Sancho has zero place at the club currently. Every week there’s a new story or ‘leak’ that devalues their own asset.

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      11 months ago

      They read more like Sancho leaks than United’s.

      The latest has a pithy tone of him being isolated from training solo, etc.

      United wouldn’t leak it like that.

    • smokebandido2x@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      your first mistake is to assume these articles are coming from united “business”

      this one is obviously a leak from a player or players and the other article making rounds today is clearly from jadons camp w the amount of “not my boy its all them” in the article

      united released one obvious briefing and that was early on, detailing the infraction, response, rationale, and backing ten hag.

      second mistake is to assume we’re trying to sell him in the first place. we’re trying to reintegrate him, which is why theres only been one briefing from united pet journalists that outlined nothing but a path back

      if he gets sold, thats the worst case and a loss in all avenues anyway. theres no need to shine him up. and so the only time a united let journalist has come out, its been to say “this is what jadon did, this is the punishment and why, this is how he can come back”

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      11 months ago

      They will loan him, then when the other club try to buy him they will try to get " return on investment" and the sale wouldn’t go through

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    11 months ago

    tbh it’s probably better for his career to go on loan and potentially get back in form. And ETH might not even be there once gets back.

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    11 months ago

    This is like that situation where Tony punches Ralph Cifaretto in season 3

  • TheSoundOfTheLloris@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Honestly Manchester United are the worst run club in the Premier by far.

    What fucking idiot thought it was a good idea to give a 20 year old a contract over £250k a week, who already had rumours of a fairly shit attitude?

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      What fucking idiot thought it was a good idea to give a 20 year old a contract over £250k a week, who already had rumours of a fairly shit attitude?

      The same people that chased him for ages to play on the right only to find out he prefers playing on the left

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    11 months ago

    Funny thing is, even if we signed Bellingham, the situation would still be the same because nobody seems to realize how bad things are at the team. Bellingham would almost certainly have been accused of being overpaid or thinking he was better than he actually was by now. Until we have a team that is run with some sort of vision, I’m done even blaming the players.