I have a AT&T BGW320-500 gateway with the AT&T FIBER — INTERNET 5000 Gbps plan in my garage.

That gateway’s 5Gb ethernet port is plugged into a TP-Link TL-SG1024S and that switch connects to 12 ethernet cables (Cat 6) that connect to the ethernet wall patch panels throughout the house.

The house has 2 flours and my main computer room is upstairs.

I have a NAS in my computer room for video editing. I also have a PC, personal laptop, and work laptop with 10Gbe NICs.

I want to buy 2 switches, one for the garage and one for the computer room. I only care about the computer room having a 10Gbe switch but I believe I need another switch for the garage to send up a 10Gbe connection to my computer room.

I’m looking for some suggestions on how I would go about doing this because I don’t really understand connecting switches like this.

I also randomly have a Juniper EX4200 series with 10G modules. I also have a linksys SR224G and a planet POE-2400 but I don’t think these will be useful.

I attached some photos of some of the current setup.

https://preview.redd.it/h9g5n5xa0k0c1.jpg?width=1533&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=020da88a10f4709a8cf8cf2511e001dbc2c74f3d

https://preview.redd.it/zt6k9kib0k0c1.jpg?width=2181&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bfe7926b65ae7913cba34a4055f7723fe85c227b

https://preview.redd.it/1hizjlyb0k0c1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6734253a082e97f264e3d12fd0fd35ed58d679e7

https://preview.redd.it/03xur0ic0k0c1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a09ab8f02ec84905d2e07db18ecab6b7ed9cdec

https://preview.redd.it/lseq5osc0k0c1.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dcf84fdb2e22be1eff22c222b8e3b5fceaa48c4

https://preview.redd.it/tna8sk6d0k0c1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c25fe227395230dd53ccd28edc9e820493e45baf

  • bradland@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Connecting switches is easy. You don’t really need to know anything. The main thing you need to avoid is accidentally creating a loop. I know that sounds dumb, but you’d be amazed how often it happens.

    How you connect this all up will depend on what you want to achieve. For example, if you want to supply 10 Gbe to all ports in your home, your plan may be different than if you want to supply 10 Gbe to your office, but stick to vanilla gigabit elsewhere.

    Hardware wise, you haven’t listed anything that requires a managed switch. That Juniper switch has some 10 Gbe capability, but it’s a managed switch that is way more complicated than you need. Plus you’d have to buy SFP to 10GBase-T adapters. That could set you back a couple hundred dollars.

    IMO, your best value is going to be something like the Netgear XS508M, 8-port, 10 Gb, unmanaged switch (currently $450 on Amazon). There is also a 5-port version, but it’s not much cheaper. Unfortunately, that means you won’t be able to provide 10 Gb to all 12 ports in your home. You’ll need one port to connect to the ATT modem/router and one to tie in your gigabit network.

    In the garage, you’ll put one Netgear 10G switch connected like this:

    [ATT]==[Netgear 10G]==[TP Link 1G]

    You can connect your patch panel based on your needs. For example, the upstairs office will go to the Netgear 10G switch, while the other ports can go to the TP Link.

    Upstairs in your office, you’ll need another Netgear 10G switch. You’ll plug all the devices in that room directly into the switch, then plug the switch into the wall to uplink to the Netgear 10G downstairs.

    Since your existing cabling is Cat6, you should be able to hit 5 Gbps without much trouble. 10 Gbps requires really good terminations. In fact, terminations are going to be your primary issue across the board. Gigabit is pretty forgiving. 10 Gbps is not forgiving at all.

  • zedkyuu@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I also do think this is massive overprovisioning, starting with the 5Gb plan, but I will suspend that. How do your computer room machines connect to your existing switch? If you have existing wall ports for them then you can get away with one 10Gb switch in the garage. If you only have one wall port in the computer room then you are correct in that they will need a switch. That switch’s single 10Gb uplink to the garage could become a bottleneck but I wouldn’t worry about that since your internet connection is only 5 anyway.

  • AdventurousTime@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    get another juniper unit but they will be very loud. For quiet something like unifi since they can be loud. something like the flex 10 GbE.

  • yesimahuman@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m looking into this right now as well, but mainly for heavy NAS usage. I’m in the unifi ecosystem, so I have a UDM-SE which has a 10G SFP+ port connected to a USW-16-PoE.

    I plan to get a synology NAS with at least two ethernet ports. My understanding is that, if I want to support at 10Gbps link to the NAS I will need to get an aggregation switch (this one: https://store.ui.com/us/en/products/usw-aggregation) which I will connect to my UDM-SE.

    I will then get a MicroTik S+RJ10 module (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078SNK1MY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1DZ2KWUETHME0&psc=1) to connect a regular cat6 cable from the switch to my desktop PC, which I will get a 10Gb PCI-E card for that connection.

    I don’t know if this is correct or helpful but I don’t _think_ you need to expect a lot more money here. An aggregation switch, the module, and a pci-e card looks like a total of ~$360.

    • Uareanoob@alien.topOPB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Would this setup work?
      Garage:
      [ATT]==[UDM-SE]==[USW-Aggregation]==[TP-Link TL-SG1024S]
      Computer Room:
      [USW-Aggregation] → Devices

      For the garage [USW-Aggregation] I believe I would need 2 [MikroTik S+RJ10]:

      • one for the ethernet wall plate that goes to my computer room
      • one for the [TP-Link TL-SG1024S]

      And for the computer room I believe I would need [MikroTik S+RJ10] for each plugged in device

  • red_vette@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    In my configuration with ATT Fiber, I have a Ubiquiti UDM-SE that goes to a Unifi Aggregation Pro. The the Agg Pro then has various runs, one which is a Unifi Flex XG in my office (has 4 10Gbe ports). You can technically skip the Agg Pro and just use the Flex XG in your office.

    • Uareanoob@alien.topOPB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Would this setup work?
      Garage:
      [ATT]==[UDM-SE]==[USW-Aggregation]==[TP-Link TL-SG1024S]
      Computer Room:
      [USW-Aggregation] → Devices
      For the garage [USW-Aggregation] I believe I would need 2 [MikroTik S+RJ10]:
      - one for the ethernet wall plate that goes to my computer room
      - one for the [TP-Link TL-SG1024S]
      And for the computer room I believe I would need [MikroTik S+RJ10] for each plugged in device

  • rjasan@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m doing 10gig over cat 5e runs of about forty feet.

    Using Tplink switches and 10gig sfps

  • nVideuh@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m sure you were prepared for the comments of “why do you need 5gbps? You don’t need it.” It’s your money, and you can do what you want with it.

    It won’t be cheap though.

  • SgtDirtyMike@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Ignore (most) of the other people here. To do this you will need two 10 gig capable switches, since your connection is only as good as the weakest link. You need to take your 5G cable (the side connected to the TP) and plug it into something 10 gig capable (unmanaged would be easiest). Also plug in the cable going upstairs into that new 10 gig switch. Then, wire the 10 gig switch to your tp link one in the garage. Upstairs, replace the switch with something 10 gig capable, then you’re good.

    Simple as that. Unfortunately 10 gig switches are not cheap these days, especially ones that are just RJ45, but there are ones that are a limited number of ports.

  • StayingUp4AFeeling@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Honest question: what use does a home consumer have for 10gbps?

    I’m not judging you, I am literally wanting to know why.

    Are you running a public server? Do you download terabytes of data in one go on a regular basis? Is it for work? Are you trying to run a public TOR gateway?

    • TFABAnon09@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      As someone who has XGS-PON (8Gbps symmetrical) - even I would argue that there’s almost no consumer use for multi-gig internet.

      I run a Data Engineering consultancy from the office in my garden and as such transfer literal terabytes of data each week and host a number of development / backup / testing environments & services for my clients - so latency and bandwidth are key factors.

      If I was just a run-of-the-mill nerd, I’d almost certainly stick with gigabit fibre.

  • Crackproblem@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    I’m using Netgear MS510TXMs. My existing cat5 cable links at 10gbps. I have them paired with 4 WAX630e APs . The APs get power from an MS108eup. I route from a Netgate 6100 max.

    It’s almost all Insight managed. The software works well, but there is a subscription fee. It’s $10/yr. per device.

    • Stonewalled9999@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      MS510TXM has 4 mgig and 4 10G ports - its also $500 on amazon. I wish there was a simple 5-8 port 10G layer 2 for says $300 I’d like to have 10G even single link to a storage / Veeam interface on on VMware cluster.

  • Legal_Silver_1424@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    You’ll need cat 7 or 8 cable directly to your gateway from your computer room, bypassing the switches elsewhere in your home. Primary router is boss. You don’t have to hop from switch to switch to get to your primary router. I’m sure the rest of the house can get by with simple gigabit cables & switches which your computer room can still communicate with through your primary router whereas your computer room will have 5Gbps connection to Ma Bell

  • divakerAM@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Got it! You’re seeking suggestions for setting up 10Gbe connections between your garage and computer room while ensuring a 5Gbe connection from the garage to leverage your 5000Gbps ISP plan, all within a budget of $5000. what a brilliant way

  • bleached_buttox@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    If you really want 10gb get a unifi aggreagtor they are very affordable, grab a few 10gb sfp modules, run cat 7 or fiber to support the speed.