It’s weird to make “5 years later” test, and out of 21 games tested most are older than a year
two 5 years old games (Assetto Corsa Competizione, Shadow of the Tomb Raider)
3 years old port of 7 years old port (Horizon Zero Dawn)
two 3 years old game (Watch Dogs: Legion, Hitman 3)
three 2 years old games (Far Cry 6, Total War: Warhammer 3, Halo Infinite)
1 year old remaster of 5 years old game (Spider-man Remastered)
three 1 year old games (Plague Requiem, COD Modern Warfare 2, Callisto Protocol)
Few of the titles that are from this year are kinda questionable choices:
game that comes out every year (F1 23)
game that started as expansion for 3-years old game (and it’s heavily based on original game tech) (AC Mirage)
this year expansion for 3 years old game with expansion (Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty)
I think it would be much more interesting video, if “5 years later” video was about checking how those CPU perform in today’s games, not how well they perform in games released in last 5 years.
It’s practical to use their existing test suite. It allows for comparison against other parts they have previously tested. Plus plenty of people are still playing games from the past 5 years.
It’s practical to use their existing test suite. It allows for comparison against other parts they have previously tested.
It’s not good idea to compare hardware performance from different tests against each other. Even if they test the same game at same settings, testing procedure can be different, and that makes those tests kinda incomparable.
Just look at 5800x3d performance in this video and compare it to 5800x3d performance their video about 14900k from 1 month ago:
Baldur’s Gate 3, Ultra 1080p: 132/100 vs 145/106
TLOU Part 1, Ultra 1080p: 139/116 vs 152/129
Assetto Corsa Competizione, Epic 1080p: 175/143 vs 161/128
Spider-man Remastered, 1080p High + High RT: 144/119 vs 122/93
I’m all in for using few years old CPUs in benchmarks to see how they compare to newest CPUs, but if that was the goal of the video, they would’ve also tested newest CPUs.
Plus plenty of people are still playing games from the past 5 years.
Of course they are, plenty of people are still playing games older than 5 years too. I don’t have a problem with testing older games, but when someone say “5 years later”, “today’s games”, “to see which platform aged the best”, “in 2023”, when most of the games aren’t “today’s”, aren’t from “5 years later” CPUs were released, weren’t released “in 2023”, and say us nothing about how CPUs aged in 5 years, I find it confusing and kinda dishonest.
The purpose is to see how the processors aged over the five years since their release. Testing games that span those five years, including titles released this year (which you neglected to list, given your obvious contrarian agenda), is the obvious way to do that.
The purpose is to see how the processors aged over the five years since their release.
They way they are wording it, it’s performance after 5 years, not during 5 years. They even combined all those games across 5 years into one slide. After reading the title, watching the intro and watching summary results I had different idea of what they were testing than what they actually were testing, which I find weird.
including titles released this year (which you neglected to list, given your obvious contrarian agenda)
Sure, it’s agenda, not the fact that listing games from 2023 would add literally nothing to my comment. /s
I don’t know how do you imagine criticism would work if we would be obligated to list things that are correct. Of course when I’m complaining about problems I’m seeing, I won’t list every thing I don’t see a problem with. You just wrote about things from comment you don’t agree with, but you haven’t listed any things you think I got right. So, do you think literally everything in my comment is wrong, or do you have obvious contrarian agenda?
I wrote how many games they tested in total, and counted games older than 1 year. Even if “out of 21 games tested most are older than a year” for reason unknown to me is not specific enough for you, number of how many games from this year they tested is only “hidden” behind basic math.
If by “listed” you are speaking about the fact that I wrote names of older games - I did that so anyone could verify if I was right about how many how old games they tested. Like someone could say “well this game had overhaul this year so it’s more like this year game”, or “well this game isn’t 3 years old it’s 2 years 10 months old” or “well this port have many new features so it’s more CPU heavy than original”. I literally wrote it so it would be easier to disagree with me if people have relevant information that I don’t have.
Most of them are either demanding/good looking despite being old or just easier and faster to test because of built in benchmarks like F1 series to provide additional data. I agree that some choices are questionable especially when HUB benches RT performance, Spiderman remastered instead of newer Miles Morales or Far Cry 6 RT
You forgot to mention they test BG3, TLoU remaster, RE4, Starfield, Hogwards Legacy and Callisto Protocol, all being less than 1 year old. And CP 2077 had a big graphics update with the expansion.
It looks like a pretty balanced selection, with games from the last 5 years, 1/3 being less than 1 year old.
It’s weird to make “5 years later” test, and out of 21 games tested most are older than a year
Few of the titles that are from this year are kinda questionable choices:
I think it would be much more interesting video, if “5 years later” video was about checking how those CPU perform in today’s games, not how well they perform in games released in last 5 years.
It’s practical to use their existing test suite. It allows for comparison against other parts they have previously tested. Plus plenty of people are still playing games from the past 5 years.
It’s not good idea to compare hardware performance from different tests against each other. Even if they test the same game at same settings, testing procedure can be different, and that makes those tests kinda incomparable.
Just look at 5800x3d performance in this video and compare it to 5800x3d performance their video about 14900k from 1 month ago:
I’m all in for using few years old CPUs in benchmarks to see how they compare to newest CPUs, but if that was the goal of the video, they would’ve also tested newest CPUs.
Of course they are, plenty of people are still playing games older than 5 years too. I don’t have a problem with testing older games, but when someone say “5 years later”, “today’s games”, “to see which platform aged the best”, “in 2023”, when most of the games aren’t “today’s”, aren’t from “5 years later” CPUs were released, weren’t released “in 2023”, and say us nothing about how CPUs aged in 5 years, I find it confusing and kinda dishonest.
Keep complaining sir. Good job
The purpose is to see how the processors aged over the five years since their release. Testing games that span those five years, including titles released this year (which you neglected to list, given your obvious contrarian agenda), is the obvious way to do that.
They way they are wording it, it’s performance after 5 years, not during 5 years. They even combined all those games across 5 years into one slide. After reading the title, watching the intro and watching summary results I had different idea of what they were testing than what they actually were testing, which I find weird.
Sure, it’s agenda, not the fact that listing games from 2023 would add literally nothing to my comment. /s
I don’t know how do you imagine criticism would work if we would be obligated to list things that are correct. Of course when I’m complaining about problems I’m seeing, I won’t list every thing I don’t see a problem with. You just wrote about things from comment you don’t agree with, but you haven’t listed any things you think I got right. So, do you think literally everything in my comment is wrong, or do you have obvious contrarian agenda?
I wrote how many games they tested in total, and counted games older than 1 year. Even if “out of 21 games tested most are older than a year” for reason unknown to me is not specific enough for you, number of how many games from this year they tested is only “hidden” behind basic math.
If by “listed” you are speaking about the fact that I wrote names of older games - I did that so anyone could verify if I was right about how many how old games they tested. Like someone could say “well this game had overhaul this year so it’s more like this year game”, or “well this game isn’t 3 years old it’s 2 years 10 months old” or “well this port have many new features so it’s more CPU heavy than original”. I literally wrote it so it would be easier to disagree with me if people have relevant information that I don’t have.
Most of them are either demanding/good looking despite being old or just easier and faster to test because of built in benchmarks like F1 series to provide additional data. I agree that some choices are questionable especially when HUB benches RT performance, Spiderman remastered instead of newer Miles Morales or Far Cry 6 RT
You forgot to mention they test BG3, TLoU remaster, RE4, Starfield, Hogwards Legacy and Callisto Protocol, all being less than 1 year old. And CP 2077 had a big graphics update with the expansion.
It looks like a pretty balanced selection, with games from the last 5 years, 1/3 being less than 1 year old.