• AlexGonzalezLanda@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    They could probably make 100K PHEVs with that. I don’t understand why don’t automakers do that. You can literally use it as an electric vehicle—a lighter one, at that—while in the city, and maybe fill it up 3-4 times a year for longer trips. Makes no sense to go full ev and have a huge pile of rare earth metals just adding weight to your car and almost never getting used.

  • Joatboy@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    I’m actually skeptical that could make that many in less than 7 years

  • SPorterBridges@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    This is what happens when you have a grifter nepo baby like Akihabara Toyoda running the company. “Self-charging hybrid” vehicles? Rigging crash tests? The guy just can’t stop lying. He tricked people into buying millions of dollars of scam car bundles and now they can only make 10k solid state batteries?

  • Ghepardo@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Every battery maker is developing solid states. Toyota makes it sound like they have it alone.

  • zxrax@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    “Only”? I wouldn’t even believe “can” at this point, let’s wait till they have made at least one!

  • ExtruDR@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    I have a feeling that Toyota is very politically fragmented. They must be a super calcified in their views with practically no new viewpoints and no real ambition to be cutting edge in any way. To be fair, I doubt that being “cutting edge” has ever been Toyota’s thing, but dragging their heels is pretty off-putting.

  • Simon676@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Honestly NMC as well as cobalt-free LFP batteries are already enough for this transition, range is good enough already, Norway has pretty much finished its transition to EVs, it’s mostly just up to governments in other countries to get things together at this point.

    Solid-state batteries will never really become the end-all for EVs that it is hyped up to be, because EVs will be working out regardless of whether they actually scale up in a reasonable time frame or not.

      • Simon676@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        I mean yeah, but it’s also just the difference between a stable democracy and an oil-dependent dictatorship, they would’ve been called crazy not to make use of the oil, which money has had large effects on the quality of life of citizens, but they also try to balance that with trying to hold themselves to a higher standard elsewhere. Think that’s pretty applaudable of them.

      • Iuslez@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        11 months ago

        In a way, it is.

        Otoh, it beats using that oil money to buy weapons and skyscrappers (and football clubs).

  • Jjex22@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Tbh this is actually more good news than bad. Solid state battery tech - if it lives up to even 70% of the hype - is the shift in battery tech that actually makes ev’s realistic for a lot of the people yet to adopt them. 10k cars is nothing to sniff at and is a huge investment. It’s all very well to have prototypes in labs and concept cars, but it’s only once businesses start selling them to the public that the real investment and rapid development happens.

    So yeah, you can’t all buy one next year, but it’s significant they can be bought

  • balIlrog@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    Didn’t we just get a bunch of reports that ev demand is way squishier than expected. Why not wait until form and supply chain are built out by your competitors and hold onto your profits?

    Is the average Toyota buyer willing to pay 1.5x the price, the upfront capital for a home charger, and rely on a patchwork of charging stations?

  • kimi_rules@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    11 months ago

    They will go under well before that. BYD and Tesla are taking over the global market at a rapid pace.