Your personal feel towards them, let’s try not to judge too much. Mine is Alan Shearer, while a PL legend I think people like to fit him in with actual world class strikers…feel like he was good, but played in a very weak PL era. Might be top 2 in the PL but very far behind if we consider the world

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    Blazingly hot takes here: Ibra and Lewandowsky. Their performances in crucial Champions league moments are from wank to subpar.

    People usually quote Lewan’s 4 goals against Real when he was at Bvb to argue that Lewan is a big game player, as if he retired from CL since then. Where was him when Bayern had to struggle against Barca, Real, Atl and Liv ? Does he have any memorable semifinal or final where he is the biggest star ?

    There is even less to talk about with Ibra’s record in CL given his longevity in many top European teams.

    Widely regarded as best strikers of the game, they are rightly expected to provide when their team most need them. But they failed at those times.

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      10 months ago

      Brave take, I understand your reasoning though…but where you rate players like Benzema, not as consistent as those guys but has higher highs

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        I rate Benzema higher than Lewy, Ibra. He had been wonderful since CR7 left, especially in CL knockouts.

        But even when they played together, Benzema’s role is to support. So it doesn’t matter if Karim is silent when Ronaldo can score which is sth he does almost every match.

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    10 months ago

    Downvote me to hell, I don’t care:

    Neymar. The best ability in sport is availability and he doesn’t have any.

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    I think Ramos is a great defender, but not near the top defender ever.

    He was solid, but had so many mistakes to be regarded as the top defender of all time, and I think his goal scoring abilities (unbelievable for a defender) helped compensate some of his mistakes. But so many times when I watched him, I was like what was he thinking by doing this?

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      10 months ago

      This is a brave take. However I still think Maldini is the Goat, others would even put Baresi before Ramos, but I haven’t seen him play

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        What? Ramos is a great player but no one but his mother would rate him above Baresi and Maldini. I can think of another half a dozen defenders better than him since I have started watching footy.

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    Kinda hard to say any player who plays at the top level sucks, but overrated? Pique. Definitely not a good enough footballer to have married Shakira and then cheated. Like I’d accept that shit from Maldini or something but not Pique ffs

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      I’m the biggest Pique hater, especially during the early 2010s, but over time dude has proved to be a class defender

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      Mount is an enigma, I think he is a pretty good player that is excellent at implementing what managers want.

      So top managers pick him and he does very well for them, but he in and of himself is just a fine prem player. I do think under an elite manager he could be excellent again but that won’t happen now.

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      Chelsea fan seconds this. He only stood out of the pile because he was average among a shitty squad

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    Alan Shearer played in a weak PL era? The late 90’s early 00’s was a weak era? Shearer is underrated for me, the man could score in a nunnery and has the record for PL goals whilst spending half his career in a shit Newcastle team, a couple seasons in the first division, and have 2 season long injuries.

    I feel like its purely a younger generation thing to say Shearer wasn’t brilliant, he played and captained England in a generation with Fowler, Sherringham, Ferdinand, Cole, Owen.

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    I know you said not to judge but Shearer being overrated is lunacy. The guys was fast, strong, could head it in, fire from distance, just an all round top baller. I honestly think he would cut it in the modern game and i think you have a bias because he played for newcastle and looked quite ordinary.

    For me it’s Rashford. I feel like he had such an explosive start to his career and has never seemed to push on from his potential. A somewhat decent player on his day but imo is no where near the level for international football or playing for a top 4 side

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      Was coming to say Rashford but take my upvote instead lol but yeah, you’re right. He had an explosive start I remember thinking Man United have found another one but… Yeah. Just seems to only play when he’s feeling it and even then it’s few and far between. Definitely shouldn’t be in a top 4 team.

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        That’s the thing with him isnt it. For me, there definitely is top 4-6 quality in Rashford yet he is so inconsistent. No one would put him alongside the greats like Rooney, v. Persie, Ronaldo but I still feel he would have a place alongside such players if he would be the only one in his position.

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    Probably Messi, he’s still top 20 players of all time but not the GOAT imo, many players are better than him

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    Garnacho. I know he’s very young but I don’t see anything at all. Seems he’s only getting minutes because everyone else at United is ass lol

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    10 months ago

    How to prove you never watched Alan Shearer play without admitting that you never watched Alan Shearer.

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    10 months ago

    Personally I always thought Raul and Kluivert were overrated. (Still great players mind, just not that legendary bracket)