The turbocharged 2.5-liter four-cylinder petrol engine in question is fitted in the Hyundai Sonata N Line where it produces 286 hp (213 kW / 289 PS) and 422 Nm (311 lb-ft) of torque.
It also makes 300hp in the G70. I wonder what is so different about this 2.5L maybe it will have more overhead and be able to take power easily, because those numbers seem pretty low or at least “average” for a regular 2.0L I4, I feel like a 2.5L should at least be getting into the 310-330s range of HP. Either way this is great news
I’m not sure why they don’t use 6 cyl. The fuel economy on this engine is going to suck compared to a turbo 6 cyl. And it’s going to have worse low end torque too.
I don’t know how they’re getting these numbers out of a 2.5T.
They could be pushing 400 hp with that engine.
Look, I know it’s not linear, but my 1.4T Opel makes 150 hp. The 1.6T optional engine makes 200hp. By this logic, there is 50 hp increase every 0.2 litres of displacement.
So I would expect like 420hp out of this. I am definitely wrong, but still, like 370 hp should be possible.
Ok but the Civic Type R and Elantra N aren’t drag race cars. So the launch isn’t high up on the priority list. You don’t buy these cars for that.
They pretty much stomp on most other cars in their price range when it comes to track/autocross times, even cars who have better 0 to 60 launches due to AWD and RWD.
The CTR has a pretty trick setup for the front suspension that the Elantra N doesn’t. If you threw 300hp into a Civic Si it would probably torque steer like hell too.
I’m not talking about understeer. I’m talking about the steering wheel getting jolted by any tiny bump underload while lacking any sense of communication.
The Type R is incredibly potent, but from a the Elantra N is way more fun to drive even if it isn’t as fast.
It also makes 300hp in the G70. I wonder what is so different about this 2.5L maybe it will have more overhead and be able to take power easily, because those numbers seem pretty low or at least “average” for a regular 2.0L I4, I feel like a 2.5L should at least be getting into the 310-330s range of HP. Either way this is great news
I’m not sure why they don’t use 6 cyl. The fuel economy on this engine is going to suck compared to a turbo 6 cyl. And it’s going to have worse low end torque too.
Literally what hatchback in the modern era has had a 6 cylinder?
None but they should!
MK5 R32 count? That’s about it.
The R32 was a complete failure, was outperformed by its less expensive competitors, and replaced with a four cylinder Golf R
So my point stands. Six cylinders in a small hatch is just a stupid idea
I don’t know how they’re getting these numbers out of a 2.5T.
They could be pushing 400 hp with that engine.
Look, I know it’s not linear, but my 1.4T Opel makes 150 hp. The 1.6T optional engine makes 200hp. By this logic, there is 50 hp increase every 0.2 litres of displacement.
So I would expect like 420hp out of this. I am definitely wrong, but still, like 370 hp should be possible.
Ford got 350/350 out of 2.3L, and Merc is getting 382/354 out of 2.0L.
Those numbers seem very low for a 2.5L performance model.
It’s also been the base engine in the Kia Stinger since 2022 MY. It’s a solid powerplant at 300HP but in a FWD car the torque steer…
They can just limit the torque at lower gears.
Bold of you to assume Hyundai would do that. Go look at the YouTube reviews of the Kia K5 with 300HP. Just roasts tires lol.
The Civic Type R seems to manage with 300hp FWD
From a roll. Have you ever launched a FWD car with 300+ HP?
Yes.
With modern suspension designs and LSDs it’s perfectly fine. You have to manage traction, but torque steer doesn’t have to be an issue.
My GTI is making 350lbft to the wheels and I don’t have any issues with torque steer.
Ok but the Civic Type R and Elantra N aren’t drag race cars. So the launch isn’t high up on the priority list. You don’t buy these cars for that.
They pretty much stomp on most other cars in their price range when it comes to track/autocross times, even cars who have better 0 to 60 launches due to AWD and RWD.
Since when was launching a car from a stop related to its handling characteristics? Lol
You have to read the comments people are responding to.
The CTR has a pretty trick setup for the front suspension that the Elantra N doesn’t. If you threw 300hp into a Civic Si it would probably torque steer like hell too.
Based on my own experience it really doesn’t. It does well when accelerating but powering out of sharp turns the front axle is completely overworked.
So you experienced undeesteer? Lol that doesn’t really mean much about the car not being able to handle 300hp.
The car rotates amazing when you lift off the throttle.
I’m not talking about understeer. I’m talking about the steering wheel getting jolted by any tiny bump underload while lacking any sense of communication.
The Type R is incredibly potent, but from a the Elantra N is way more fun to drive even if it isn’t as fast.
I’m sure it can make those numbers or higher, the Sonata N-Line and G70 aren’t in the same category as an N in terms of pushing performance.