Not really a fair comparison. Havertz is younger, arguably has a higher ceiling (if and when he is finally played in the correct role) and came from a team which didn’t really need the money and was in no rush to sell as the player was not unsettled and still had a long contract duration.
A more appropriate comparison would be the 20m move for Leandro Trossard, who was also a 28 year old forward who was unsettled, proven at premier league level but is at/near his ceiling and had 18 months left on his contract at a not cash-rich club in January. Viewed through this lens, and even accounting for the English player tax and striker tax, Toney for 80m looks fairly ludicrous. Trossard’s move is widely hailed as a smart piece of transfer business, but had he cost 60 or even 80m, it would have been derided as a massive overpay.
Sorry, I’m not quite getting your point. originally you said that Toney is only 1.23 havertz, implying he is cheap. Then you said that Havertz is an overpay, which undermines your initial argument. Do you have a point to make about Toney, or are you just taking shots at Havertz? Because there are other threads out there for that.
Maybe you lack the brain power to understand that multiple things can be true, they are hardly conflicting statements.
1 - if arsenal paid 80m for Toney that would be 1.23x of the Havertz fee
2 - Havertz was overpriced but arsenal have now basically told premier league teams they will overpay for even average players thus Brentford will know they can charge a decent fee
Yes there was an email to every PL manager to that effect when Arsenal completed the signing.
As I have said above, the situations behind both transfers are very different. But your latest response, and also your comment history shows that you are probably incapable of taking a nuanced look at this, so I won’t waste my breath further.
Figure widely quoted was 80mil which for a 28yo with 18months on the contract is a bit steep.
Yeah. Also meant to be s bit of a cunt. Didn’t realize he was do old tbh
That’s only 1.23 Kai Havertz
Not really a fair comparison. Havertz is younger, arguably has a higher ceiling (if and when he is finally played in the correct role) and came from a team which didn’t really need the money and was in no rush to sell as the player was not unsettled and still had a long contract duration.
A more appropriate comparison would be the 20m move for Leandro Trossard, who was also a 28 year old forward who was unsettled, proven at premier league level but is at/near his ceiling and had 18 months left on his contract at a not cash-rich club in January. Viewed through this lens, and even accounting for the English player tax and striker tax, Toney for 80m looks fairly ludicrous. Trossard’s move is widely hailed as a smart piece of transfer business, but had he cost 60 or even 80m, it would have been derided as a massive overpay.
Ah the mythical untapped potential of Havertz
Havertz wasn’t worth even £40m so arsenal have already indicated they will overpay
Sorry, I’m not quite getting your point. originally you said that Toney is only 1.23 havertz, implying he is cheap. Then you said that Havertz is an overpay, which undermines your initial argument. Do you have a point to make about Toney, or are you just taking shots at Havertz? Because there are other threads out there for that.
Maybe you lack the brain power to understand that multiple things can be true, they are hardly conflicting statements.
1 - if arsenal paid 80m for Toney that would be 1.23x of the Havertz fee
2 - Havertz was overpriced but arsenal have now basically told premier league teams they will overpay for even average players thus Brentford will know they can charge a decent fee
Yes there was an email to every PL manager to that effect when Arsenal completed the signing.
As I have said above, the situations behind both transfers are very different. But your latest response, and also your comment history shows that you are probably incapable of taking a nuanced look at this, so I won’t waste my breath further.
Havertz is younger, thus higher price.
He’s also shitter