• W0666007@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    This isn’t surprising (whatever the source) but this also isn’t at all an indicator of how things will behave moving forward. I think we can expect 911s to depreciate a LOT more in the next 5 years and they did in the previous 5 years.

    • upsidedownfunnel@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Not necessarily. Remember this is for new cars between new and 5yo. MSRP, not dealer markup prices. There may be a sharper depreciation curve for older cars, but those appreciated over the past years so that’s to be expected.

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      1 year ago

      This isn’t surprising? Any 991 carrera s with over 40k miles can be be brought for like less than 50k£

      They depreciate like a bitch past a certain point

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      1 year ago

      I don’t mind as this will most likely be the only way I’ll buy a 911. Maybe once I have 3x the amount of a fully equipped 911 of that current year I may then buy a slightly used to my liking.

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      1 year ago

      I’d say the exact opposite will happen. With EVs taking over, you will get big bucks for real cars, especially if you have a manual.

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    1 year ago

    When put into context, it makes sense. When you have 2 year old GT3s selling for more than what their sticker price is, yeah, that can affect how “a 911 has the lowest depreciation” statistically/mathematically.

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      1 year ago

      This totally makes sense, but then wouldn’t there be some hypercars above 911 who constantly sell over sticker?

      For example like Bugatti or some Ferraris

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          1 year ago

          Probably this. Also, “911 coupe” pretty much umbrellas every model of 911 unless it’s a targa or a cab as every model is a “coupe”.

          Additionally, those Bugattis and Ferraris don’t have the multiple models to help pad those numbers. A Chiron is pretty much it, meanwhile the 911 has the ST, GT3, GT2, R, anniversary editions, RS iterations, R, GTS, S, Turbo, Turbo S, etc…that helps quite a bit from a mathematical pov.

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    1 year ago

    Does the 9.3% indicate that a 911 would only lose 9.3% of its value over 5 years? That’s shockingly good. Maybe that’s due to the recent unusual market conditions due to supply chain issues, Covid, etc….

    I bought a Carrera 4S manual 5.5 years ago. According to KBB.com it’s now worth 13% less on trade in than I paid for it. That’s incredible value retention in my opinion.

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      1 year ago

      Yes and the 911 has always been insulated a little bit since it’s the “only” car with the engine over the rear axle. If you want 911 driving dynamics, you have to get a 911. Nobody else makes even a clone.

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    1 year ago

    I can say that the prices of 981s have some down a LOT in the last two years. Prices went crazy during the pandemic and seem to have normalized - to the point that I just bought my first Boxster S this week.

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    1 year ago

    4 wheel traders video about the supercar market in general - also talks about where porsche is. 13:19 youtube link

    he also has a couple model specific porsche videos recently. a gt3, turbo s, cayman and taycan… all within the last 2 months.

    link to his youtube page

    I would highly recommend his channel if you are considering buying/selling porsche or high end sports/supercars. he doesn’t talk to the feelz… all is based off fact/data in the market.

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      1 year ago

      The brz feels like bs. Maybe because it starts out cheaper and doesn’t end up being 60% off 6 years later.

      My vote would’ve been STi’s as used ones are basically going for what used to be out the door price right now.

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        1 year ago

        Can confirm just purchased an sti. I think that’s a different story tho as Subaru has confirmed no more STI will be built.

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          1 year ago

          Even before 2022 prices were like this. They were actually higher due to Covid, but they come back down to normal in my area. You can’t get a va chassis with a clean title for under 32-34k or it’s got a ton of miles.

          Good luck with a used sti, may your ringlands forever be intact.

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    1 year ago

    I bought my mom a 2018 CHR brand new. Sold it 5 years later to CarMax for 3k below MSRP. They ended up selling it for 1k above MSRP. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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    1 year ago

    Why are so many people taking this at face value when there’s no source referenced?

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    1 year ago

    I can vouch for 718. My side story:

    A gang of car thieves stole my 2017 718 Cayman Sapphire Blue, which I bought around $70k. My insurance company did an assessment and gave me back a bit less than $70k. If you account for inflation, I will say the number is quite close to the number shown up there.