Hey everyone, genuine discussion here as fair as possible, not trying to start a war or anything 😂

So I have been an Android user for more than the last 10 years and have seen all advancements from Android since version 2. I always respected the build quality and hardware of iPhone but iOS was so restricted you could basically do nothing with it.

Lately, both operating systems have hugely evolved and have reached a certain feature parity so I felt it was time for me to give a chance to the Apple side.

So I did it and moved from my last OnePlus Nord 2 phone to the latest iPhone 15 Pro Max. I know these phones belong to different categories but my discussion will concentrate mostly on the OS stuff so it won’t matter.

What troubles me is that although iPhone is certainly a nice phone with good build quality, I keep trying to find reasons that would explain and make my switch worthy but on the contrary I constantly find things that annoy me and consider loss of functionality after the switch.

So I wanted to try and give a small summary of my pros and cons as fair as possible and have a discussion around what people think.

Let’s start with the cons:

  • my work uses Google Workspace accounts. Apple calendar does not fully support Google calendar syncing. What I mean is that PUSH is not supported to get immediately new events from the server but a fetch is done (by the app) every once in a while to get the updates. What is worse is that by default this is set to happen only when the phone is plugged in and on WiFi, which means that you sync stuff once a day… There is the option to make it more frequent up to 15 minute periods. However, even this makes you miss last minute changes that are not synced to your calendar. So this is definitely a no go for me, leading me to use instead…the Google Calendar app which has no such limitations.

  • next is the photo sharing with iCloud. You can only share them with people that have Apple devices which is really annoying because my girlfriend does not have one and we used to have a lot shared albums on Google Photos. So again, I ended up using Google Photos on iOS.

  • the keyboard… My native language is Greek. Starting from the fact the for some reason Apple decided that they wanted to change the official qwerty outline of Greek keyboard by removing the final s (ς) from its place, which creates a different key placement that constantly leads to typing errors when you are used to the regular outline. Note that the ipad correctly has the outline, only IPhone doesn’t. But more importantly, word correction is a nightmare. If you enter an unknown word, it never learns it and constantly tries to correct it. You have to do the whole process of going into settings and adding a word abbreviation for each unknown word… This is really bad… So I installed swift keyboard which just allows you to tap onto an unknown word and it is added to the dictionary.

  • iOS is missing some nice gimmicks such as showing your palm to the camera to get a selfie which is really more useful than the timer when trying to get a group photo

  • not showing business caller IDs in dialer!!! This is really bad. Most business have their listings on Google and Google Maps. So on Android you directly get their ID when you or they call you. I would expect this from IPhone as well and was really disappointed to see it is not there.

  • Does not support Miracast which is far more widely supported on TVs than AirPlay

  • Siri is quite more restricted compared to Google Assistant

  • Really miss my fast charging where I could charge the phone in 20 mins

  • can’t easily share a WiFi password with non apple devices as done with the QR code sharing in Android

  • No actual file system when you connect it to the computer to easily share files with the phone. This was also really useful to be able to quickly use your phone as USB storage

  • No sideloading of apps!!! That was also a hit for me… You cannot have apps like ad blocking YouTube or whatever you want like you could in Android

  • Notifications seem to require more effort to work with VS how they work in Android

Now about the pros:

  • Instant and effortless camera usage

  • it does play really well with other Apple devices with features like Continuity, hand off, sharing etc…

  • iMessage (although not much for me because huge majority of my contacts are on Android). Again I believe Google RCS is getting close.

  • Backup. I really like that when you actually backup the iPhone it also backs up app data meaning that upon restore you can completely resume your work. Only thing needed to set up again is FaceID and apple pay. Android cannot do that natively. However they have started to implement APIs for apps to backup their data on Google so apps that do this have also their data restored during the process. So it’s up to the devs to catch up.

  • Video quality on apps. Apps that use the camera and can fully access it’s potential is really a big difference compared to Android where due to the fragmentation and no support of each different vendor you get a really bad quality when using the 3rd party apps. There are attempts to unify this under certain APIs in Android as well but it will certainly take a while.

  • FaceTime call quality is stunning. Have never been able to have such good quality calls using any other app whatsoever.

  • I would also say update support but this is not that much anymore with more established brands catching up with this. Apple offers 5 years of updates. Samsung offer 4 major updates and 5 years of patches and Google with the new Pixel 8 years!

So there certainly are some good points according to my experience. However, these are more nice to have things as opposed to functionality loss of the bad points which hurt my user experience.

What’s your take on all of the above? And most importantly for those who have switched from Android, what won you over?

  • SgtBaxter@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I dumped Android once iPhones adapted USB-C like my iPads, because I’m done with all of Androids bullshit. Samsung is garbage, I got burned by a few of their phones. I’ll never buy another Samsung product. The Nexus I had was great for about 3 months, then the defective memory controller slowed it to a crawl. Then the note that had the exploding battery problem. Haha yeah fuck Samsung with a chainsaw.

    Pixels aren’t any better. Vanilla android is good but the hardware is shit. My 4a died in a year and the volume buttons never did work properly. My 6a keeps losing the eSIM, a known issue that they can’t solve. Got tired of buying a phone every damn year. Besides which their battery life is atrocious. Meanwhile I’ve been sitting here a few hours and my 15 Pro Max (bought it for the lidar) which was back at 100% from my MagSafe holder in the car is at 95%. My 6a would have been at 65-70 by now.

    Speaking of the car, that was really what pissed me off enough to dump android. Something would update, and android auto would break. Waze stopped letting me do anything. Podcasts wouldn’t update. Shit got old quick. Meanwhile, my girlfriend would plug in her iPhone and it always worked flawlessly. Now Waze works again. I swear the google apps work better in iOS than they did on my pixel.

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    10 months ago

    It used to be simplicity up to around iOS 5 or 6.

    But these days it’s as complex as Android but I still stick to Apple because now I’m used to it.

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    10 months ago

    Go back to Android. A phone at this point is so much an extension of you that if you are having second thoughts, go back to the other phone. Perhaps the question should be, why do you even want an iPhone? I am an iPhone user since the very first iPhone. I’ve never consider moving to another system. I’ve tried, taking advantage of the various offers, but I like my iPhone better.

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    10 months ago

    I find the ios very customizable imo. You can have it set to full straight brain rot mode or complete silence or business mode. The DND function is also amazing. You can choose which contacts can call and which can’t specifically on each mode. Whereas Android does not have that freedom

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      10 months ago

      Android also has nicely working DND mode that you can also customize like whose calls to accept, after how many times etc… It does not have different focus modes though IIRC like sleep, work, etc

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        10 months ago

        Yeah that’s the issue. I dont want to be at work and be bombarded by memes by my friends. And i dont want to be bombarded with work stuff when im at home

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          10 months ago

          Makes sense and is a nice feature!

          BTW out of curiosity I googled it now and it seems that Samsung has multiple focus modes similar to IOS… Feature parity that we mentioned!

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            10 months ago

            Yeah unfortunately i had a bad experience with samsung so i dont shop with them anymore. Theyre top tier in the android game imo

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    10 months ago

    iPhone does everything I want it to, looks beautiful, and I’m familiar with the UI out of the box.

    Yes I could learn Android, or I could customize Android to be just like iOS, but I do IT for a living and don’t want to troubleshoot when I’m off the clock.

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      10 months ago

      It’s actually really hard to customize Android to be just like iOS. I tried Android a few years ago expecting to be able to customize everything to make my perfect phone, but as it turns out most of the customization you get is extremely superficial.

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        10 months ago

        I wasn’t gonna say that and shit on the Android iOS makeover lovers, but yeah. The Android iOS themes you can get are cool for what they are, but you can tell it’s an Android under the hood.

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    10 months ago

    I’m choosing IOS over Android simply because I’m too invested into the Apple ecosystem now and the seemless connect ion between all the Apple Devices is really nice and practital to me.

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    10 months ago
    1. Ability to separate home and app screens. Do not like Apple’s everything on the homescreen approach. My android homescreen is clean and customized with my most needed app icons and folders such that I hardly ever need to navigate and scroll through multiple app screen pages where I keep my less used apps.

    2. USB stick like drag and drop file management on plugging in phone to a windows laptop.

    3. Downloading mp3 files, or for that matter any file, from the internet. (No, I don’t care about spotify. And yes, I know the security risks of doing this and I am prepared to take responsibility for it. I do not need to be treated like a child.)

    4. Call recording without announcing it to the other person (Yup its a thing on Android. In my country there are legitimate ways to do this because its legal and in others there is always sideloading. And please spare me the holier than thou invasion of privacy BS. We all have been in situations where we wish we could have recorded a conversation).

    5. Installing FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) apps from the F-Droid store. Related point - Accessing multiple app stores.

    6. Emulators! Need I say more?

    I cannot in all seriousness consider an iphone unless these features are somehow made avialable, which I do not see happening.

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    10 months ago

    I use both. I typically have a Pixel and iPhone. IMO the features at this point are really on par with each other. There’s not a huge difference. However, I will point out a few benefits of iOS over Android.

    1. iOS apps are WAY more polished, smooth, and just work better.

    2. On an iPhone I can get any Google app I want and still use all the iOS apps. On Android, I get all the Google apps, but only a couple of Apple apps.

    3. The ecosystem on Apple is unparalleled. I mean, my Mac, iPad, AirPods, Apple Watch, and iPhone work flawlessly together in a way no Android set up can.

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    10 months ago

    The calendar push is mostly a Google thing. Just like they do with mail. For all the crap they talk about equality they basically force you to use the Gmail and Google Calendar apps if you want push notifications. And that’s why I stopped using them. Microsoft or iCloud works much better.

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    10 months ago

    I just switched from S23 Ultra to iPhone 15 Pro Max. I been with Android since Nexus 4 all the way up to S23 Ultra. The main reason I switched was for connectivity such as iMessage and FaceTime. One of the big thing I noticed right way is how many features Samsung tries to copy Apple but everything feels cheap and rushed in Samsung phones.