2017 Bolt EV with 103,000mi. Battery was changed in April. During the peak summer I was getting roughly 300mi of range.
Currently the temperature has dropped from 80 to 20 degrees f. My range has dropped to roughly 140mi non-highway driving. To add to the loss, the CC2 tires have dropped it roughly 15%. A little nervous with subzero temps approaching, but a fun ride.
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It’s winter here in Seattle (more or less) so that means temps in the mid 30s to low 50s. So far I’d put the range loss from the weather at something like 10%, not really a lot.
My config does have a heat pump, if that matters.
300 miles down to 230 so far in 30 degree weather. I take an extra hit from real short 3 mile drives (initial heating) and getting dark sooner. '22 niro
My true gauge is what I get home after visiting both mine and my wife’s family from a full charge perspective. Summer I’d get back with 40ish percent, mild fall I would get back at 50% and just on thanksgiving (high of 32(?)) Got back at 35%. I’ve also switched to my winter setup which has some stickier tires I think. So I’d say it’s currently about as efficient as summer had I not needed/wanted to change tires out.
What car do you have?
Depends. Short trips are a lot worse. Long trips almost no difference.
This. It’s horrid driving many short distance trips as my car spends energy heating up the battery and before it’s even done, I’ve arrived.
If it’s any consolation, a gas car is the same way
2016 Chevy Volt. Summer range 65miles. Winter range 45 miles.
Wow 😮
Philly area so it’s not quite frigid tundra here, but we did finally have our first frost of the season a couple weeks ago.
My Ariya with its small battery and heat pump has had very little range loss, I’d say around 10%, so from 215 down to around 190. The heat pump is absolutely the main reason why I felt fine getting this car with the small battery.
Meanwhile my MME with its big battery and resistance heater is taking a significant hit, it’s a solid 25% from 312 down to 235.
About the same on the Model 3. Battery has degraded from 310 to 275 and driving in Winter sees that drop to 150-175. 26F, 6-8 inches of snow last night in Southern Idaho. 120 miles between chargers and it was just making it with 10-20 miles of range left.
Depends on the driving.
Normal commute takes a big hit; ~25 minute trips, every one starting with a cold battery plus having to heat the cabin.Long trips aren’t as bad, bit of initial heating but otherwise not too much on maintaining said temps in the grand scale of things.
Of course there’s colder (thus denser) air, softer winter tires.Reckon 10-25% loss on longer trips, upwards of 40% for short/city trips.
It is widely unrecognized but ICE cars also suffer range loss in the colder winter months vs warmer months, just sayin’!
My buddy told me this, his KIA gets 34mpg in the summer and roughly 25mpg in the winter. True from his take.
Technically ice engines run better in the cold. They make more power the colder it is. The cold air is more oxygen dense. This is especially true for turbo engines.
Winter gas(petrol for nonUS readers) in the US negates any positives. Also more air = more fuel and terrible winter fuel = terrible mpg.
r/whataboutism
I know a guy
Polestar 2 with the heat pump package, freezing temps +/- a few degrees. Range is about 20-25% lower than optimal conditions, this includes precondition losses.
25-35% in old resistive heater vehicles.
In high-efficiency “heat pump” vehicles the loss is much less (like 15%).
EV6 RWD Long Range here in Canada (I believe in the US it’s called the Wind). Temps have been hovering between -5 and 6° for the last month or so. The guess-o-meter reads about 100km less range (so around 400 rather than 500). My usual commute efficiency (which is 95% highway) dropped from around 5.4-6Km/KWh down to about 4.4-5Km/KWh.
It’s definitely noticeable but it’s not impossible to deal with by any stretch; it’s about the same range loss my ICE has in the winter to be honest (that can usually do around 600km on a tank in the summer, about 500 in the winter) so it’s not overly different. My wife still managed a 3000km road trip a few weeks ago without any major problems.
I charged my 2019 Etron last night, and at 90%, my range was 170. Temp this AM was around 37F. In the summer, 90% gets me around 195. This is my fifth winter. Nothing to see here.
I just got back from a 700 mile trip; northern Indiana to North Carolina. Left this AM in my preconditioned 2023 Model 3 RWD. Temps varied from 20 to 25 degrees and I drove the speed limit (70 max) or lower the entire way. 100%-> 2% netted me 178 miles. EPA combined rating is 272 miles.
2018 EQ full charge: 50 to 95 degrees Farenheit range is 85 miles
below 50 degrees with seat heater range is 75 miles
below 50 degrees with defog, air heat, and lights range if 60 miles