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Savagegeese review
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
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Savagegeese review
Thoughts? The Toyota truck fanbase is torn in half over these new generations of trucks.
The people who seriously won’t buy it because it has a turbo are crazy. Acting like turbos are a new technology or something lol.
Most of the people complaining about potential reliability issues are just finding something to whine about. Let’s be honest if they really cared that much about reliability in a car, they would just buy a Corolla and call it a day. I bet 80% of those Tacomas are just mall crawlers that will never utilize the full bed or see a speck of dirt in their lifetime
People still act like turbos haven’t been refined over the last 40 years.
Does anyone know? What is the failure rate, or need for turbo replacement during a car’s lifespan? Is it a guaranteed must replace in 10, 15, or 20 years? Or do they tend to last the life of the vehicle?
Depends on the design and how the vehicle is cared for. Under normal operation, keeping up with maintenance (mainly making sure it has decent oil), typically the turbo will last the life of the vehicle.
It’s not just the turbo that fails (they do) it’s all ancillary parts that go with it. It’s also the extra stress on the engine, which aren’t over built like they used to be. It’s the tighter packaging making working on other stuff a pain in the dick.
Is there a turbo engine, that’s known for its minimal maintenance and longevity?
I know it’s not the exactly the same but pretty much every diesel engine is a turbo. They are hailed as some of the most reliable engines in vehicles. GMs new 2.7l turbo gas engine is supposedly heavily based on a diesel engine and so far has a good track record since 2018 in the Silverado.
Just yesterday I spoke to my mechanic during my inspection and asked which brand he suggested to avoid and without thought replied GM.
He also had a Ram truck in the shop, a o ring in an injector went. The truck was under 100k, yes with the diesel.
Everyone who is down voting similar sentiments as mine on the risk of reliability going to turbo I bet you doesn’t actually work on their cars and probably a good chunk just lease. Making the problem of reliability/maintenance irrelevant.
Will see in a few years.
“A hybrid?! From Toyota?! They’ve never done hybrids before! This will surely be unreliable! A turbo?! Even worse!”
More things to break and adding complexity to a system that’s been around for 20 years with no major problems!!! /s
And Toyota was a frontrunner in reliable turbo technology 30 years ago. The supra and mr2 turbo are still solid reliable cars despite the turbochargers. If anyone is going to make a legitimately reliable turbo engine it’ll be Toyota.
Weren’t the most recent v6 turbo tundras having watergate issues that put the car into limp mode? Turbos are far from new, but there’s a reason Toyota specifically took so long to implement them.
It was much worse than that, it can legit grenade the engine and to replace the turbos is a cab-off job. Our local Toyota dealer is full of Tundras no one wants for this reason and Ford and GMC made serious head way this year for pickups over Toyota.
Tundras just had the best Q2/Q3 in many years tho
I work at the tundra plant and we make 800 minimum a day. Someone must be buying them 🤷♀️
It must be an area thing, here the Tundra launch was super botched and people were pissed and had piles of money waiting to buy stuff. High trim trucks here are super common and alot of people own them to tow boats, horse trailers, side by sides, and watercraft. It is mostly all GMCs and Fords, and the occasional Ram. All the Toyotas for most part are overlanding stuff like 4Runners and modified Tacomas.
If you are at the factory, I hope they design them with smaller A pillars (seriously it can hide stoplights and stop signs, and give an option to turn off the fake engine sound (dealer here charges $500 with a OBD tool for it good grief) along with more engine choices (v8 and a diesel please). I loved the interior on the TRD Pro and I wish the Capstone had more than white leather because in a truck that will get destroyed. Its not a bad truck, its just I wish Toyota did more.
I don’t know if that’s really the reason. Tundra sales have always been kind of low.
Because they were making money hand over fist from Tacoma and 4Runner buyers handing them 50k for dogshit engines and transmissions?
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Define dogshit. If all I want is reliability then those engines are basically the best there is.
If I’m willing to compromise MPG and some power for an engine that’ll last me 300k+ with minimal maintenance then that engine/trans is amazing. Does it also benefit Toyota to have such a long production cycle? Of course. But if people like it, and it works VERY well, why change it?
They’re definitely hyped up by the consumers, but Toyota would be a bad company not to take advantage of that hype. I do wish they did more about dealer mark ups but that’s an issue with every manufacturer.
Yeah they had a nasty wastegate issue that was supposedly just faulty design/manufacturing so in theory it’s fixed. Trust will take time to build.