• nirad@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    The fact that they are cutting Cruise spending rather than investing more into R&D is significant. If Waymo is the only company that actually figures out self-driving it’s going to be huge.

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      11 months ago

      self-driving is general AI problem in a safety-critical application, its not going to be solved anytime soon (in a way that can be broadly commercialized) There’s too much money and careers sunk into “Self Driving Cars” it to admit this.

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        11 months ago

        We went from “AI? Lol” to “this AI is better than 70% of all humans at anything, and you wouldn’t even know it was an AI if you spoke to it” (ChatGPT4/premium) in about 5 years.

        And you think self driving is “far away?”

        Curious indeed how you’re so certain. It always boggles my mind how cocksure all of the “no one wants a $600 phone” types are. And the weird thing is, they are always wrong.

        • tankmode@alien.topB
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          11 months ago

          never doubted the iphone for a second but have had the same view on self-driving since 2016 (and been right the whole time btw). the SDC hype machine meanwhile has been saying “1 more year” for pretty much a decade whild burning many $Billions a year.

          ChatGPT is nice step forward but it is expensive and error prone, its only useful as a productivity enchancer in time consuming but low stakes content work like SEO blogging or Graphics arts. There’s a massive cognitive dissonance between the tech companies shuttering massive development operations for Alexa & Google Home (because theyre shit and dont make any money) while at the same time pumping ChatGPT. What ChatGPT is actually best at is convincing $Billions worth of Venture Capital and Fortune500 IT buyers that they need buy millions of dollars of GPU time from Cloud Providers. That cycle will play out for a couple years before people realize the commercialization opportunities are fairly limited.

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            11 months ago

            You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I watched the recent Microsoft Ignite event on what they are rolling out AI wise and it’s pretty incredible. You have no idea how much it has improved software development in making us way more productive. Now we are being given the tools to take our own data and use their LLMs to create our own Microsoft Teams or O365 AI bots. I can think of a ton of uses for it already. Also we are already using AI to analyze and predict a lot of client to company interaction. And we are a nothing small business.

            You really are talking without knowledge if you think the commercialization opportunities aren’t there.

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          11 months ago

          Unfortunately, ever since the “Uber incident” (which also happened in AZ), the autonomous vehicle industry has been operating under a sort of “Sword of Damocles.”

          You have one incident where you seriously injure or kill someone, and you’re done. To date, the only fatality has been with the Uber (which was supervised at the time) and the Cruise incident was the result of a hit and run driver pushing the victim in front of their vehicle…an “edge case” if there ever was one.

          I’d hazard a guess and say that Waymo is probably very worried about this. It’s inevitable that one of their vehicles will be involved in an incident where there’s a serious injury or fatality. If/when that happens, they’re at the risk of being shut down.

          Which is an absurdly high bar. How many legacy auto manufacturers are still in business despite their faulty product causing dozens or even hundreds of casualties?

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            11 months ago

            Yeah, it’s bullshit. Were so afraid of AVs killing one person were happy to let 9 people die by the hands of humans texting, drunk driving, street racing, falling asleep etc