Cech and David Luiz moved after their primes. They’d already had success at Chelsea and weren’t good after they left. Arsenal thought they could do better than Giroud and were happy when he left. But he obviously was an important player for us and aged well.

Whereas Ashley Cole came from Arsenal’s academy, I’m pretty sure supported them as a kid and was one of the best players in his his position in the world. And was slap bang in the middle of his prime. From Arsenal fan’s perspective he left for money although it was probably more the principle and feeling valued by the club.

Chelsea fans feel exactly the same way about Mason Mount. Him going to a rival isn’t what made fans angry. It’s the fact he’d been at the club since he was a kid, had already had success with the club and was meant to be a key player for them moving forwards. And the fans feel he chose money over loyalty (again probably more to do with feeling valued).

I don’t think Chelsea or Arsenal fans would care unless a player is basically leaving for money or because they think they can win trophies at the other club. So Van Persie going to United is probably more insulting to Arsenal fans than any of the Chelsea ones you listed. Or Fabregas going to Chelsea after Barca. He was already an Arsenal legend and had left in a bad way. Then returned to London to play for Chelsea (although Wenger didn’t want him).

The rivalry means nothing if the player isn’t good enough. Havertz isn’t even in his prime yet but he wasn’t living up to Chelsea fan’s expectations and you could tell he needed a change to reignite his career.

And yeah they hate Spurs a lot more than each other. But the lack of transfers between them and Spurs comes from the Spurs end and Daniel Levy.

You cant compare these transfers.

Ashley Cole was an academy player, a youngster who grew into the team, he was an Arsenal fan growing up. Him leaving is like if Bukayo Saka left now to Chelsea. You would see “proper animosity” then, trust me.

There’s a difference between transferring (close to) washed-up players like Giroud, Luiz, Cech and Jorginho, or unwanted players like Kai. None of these players were expected to start for the selling team so there was no outcry.

Ashley Cole was an academy project and an invincible, just entering his prime. He left THAT team over 5k in wages and silently started the selling off process. It’s completely different to the ones mentioned above.

Its quite simple. Ashley Cole was potentially the best LB in the world in 2006 and also somewhat forced his way out of Arsenal. All of those other players were either out of favour, or not bought as starters anyways.

It’s a case by case basis, depends on the player and the circumstances at the time but what tends to be mutual and consistent is that we wish whoever makes the switch nothing but the worst (at club level).

They should swap squads on bi-quarterly basis. And combine both squads to beat Tottenham 7-0.

These are players out of form. It would be different if Rice/Martinelli/Saka were to go to Chelsea in the next window

It hurt with Cashley and Fabregas

does anyone know fps?

It feels like the only premiership London rivalries are (insert club here) vs spurs.

Oh and Chelsea, everyone hates them but that’s fair enough.

Nah, maybe global Arsenal fans don’t hate Chelski fans.

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But anyone who grew up in the UK with them buying leagues after coming from the championship/bankruptcy/mid table fucking despises them. They literally paved the way for City to ruin football and the prem.

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A lot of Chelsea fans are racist. They had a literal recruitment office for a far right nazi group outside of their stadium. But even the non racist ones just aren’t nice people.

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They stole a lot of Arsenal’s players by being fraudulent and paying money that they didn’t have - any Arsenal fan that doesnt think they should be dissolved as a club isn’t a real gooner.

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(yes I am bitter about the UCL’s)

“Arsenal and Tottenham player would never transfer to each other, nor United players to city or Liverpool ect.”

*Sol Campbell, Emmanuel Adebayor, Pat Jennings, William Galas, Denis Law, Carlos Tevez, Owen Hargreaves, Peter Schmeichel, Brian Kidd, Raheem Sterling, James Milner, Paul Ince, Peter Beardsley, and Michael Owen have entered the chat.

That’s because Chelsea buy everyone

Cole was arguably the best LB in the world when he left, and Arsenal and Chelsea were direct title rivals. None of those other names were as important or left at a time when the rivalry meant as much.

None of the modern era players had the potential of Cashley. It was one of the first big Chelsea power moves when Roman came in if I remember right, so it upset a lot of people.