In regards to reliability, serviceability, repairability, part availability, etc?

Like is there a vehicle today that we will see 30 years in the future with no quit?

  • StuM88@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Short answer is no. Those were the pinnacle of auto reliability. Seems to be more focus on cost cutting now and significantly more tech to go bad.

    EVs may have potential to raise the reliability bar once the tech is refined and battery life extended.

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    10 months ago

    I’d go Toyota or Lexus… granted Lexus doesn’t have the same “next level” features that they used to but still. Toyota parts.

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    10 months ago

    You can rest assured that practically every car today is built better, and to better standards, than nearly every car built 30 years ago.

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    10 months ago

    Subaru BRZ / Toyota 86 as far as sports cars go. They still have that 90s-esq simplicity. No hybrid, no turbo, mostly manual trans, RWD, great fuel economy, cheap to own, very easy to work on, massive aftermarket support, and are still being made.

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    10 months ago

    I commute in to work often beside a 1987 through 1992 model Toyota Corolla - and he’s on the turnpike with us, too.

    Just buy one of those and rebuild each system as necessary to keep it running.

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      10 months ago

      “Domestic” doesn’t really have any meaning any more. Toyota and Hyundai make their North American market products in Alabama, and GM’s NA factories are in Canada and Mexico.

      Nowadays it’s not about where it was built, it’s about where it was designed. The Asian automakers still design more reliable vehicles than either American or European automakers, although some Asian automakers have begun to “Americanize” their products for a greater emphasis on expedient manufacture versus reliability and ease of maintenance. (Toyota’s recent HVAC changes is an example here, as they’ve started to move away from easily accessible and replaceable evaporator cores in some of their cars in favor of a self-contained airbox that’s easier/faster to install during assembly. Instead of popping out the glovebox and blower assembly and accessing the evap core without having to remove the whole airbox assembly, they’re starting to require dash pulls.)

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        10 months ago

        Ford still makes vehicles in the US. Good point with Toyota and Hyundai/Kia though.

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    10 months ago

    The current 4runner hasnt changed drastically since like 2002. The current generation has been in production since 2009. Those things are absolute tanks when maintained regularly. I dont see them going away anytime soon with so many having been produced over 14 years. Last model is likely going to be 2025 once the 6th gen is announced.

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    10 months ago

    People see these cars through rose tinted glasses. They were very reliable relative to others at a time when cars generally had reliability issues.

    In my experience cars today are very reliable as well.

    I have a 2015 honda cr-v and has not had any repairs done whatsoever except servicing (90k miles/140k km). Even still has original factory brake pads.

    Quite simple car, Nothing too crazy on it that could go wrong.

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    10 months ago

    I mean, the 9th Gen Accord is pretty reliable. I have a 2015 I bought new, used and abused the shit out of it. No proper maintenance cycle, replacing things once they broke and I have 320k miles on it. I’ve had 2 sets of rotors. Maybe 6 sets of pads. 3 alternators. 7 batteries. 1 starter. 2 sets of spark plugs. 1 valve cover gasket. 1 PCV valve. And now just a month ago, my A/C fan motor just gave out.

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    10 months ago

    I doubt vehicles will ever be made to last that long even if possible. Especially as newer types of cars (EVs) have less maintenance costs the dealers are really going to need to push people into buying a new car every X number of years, which I imagine theyll do with planned obsolescence like all the electronics manufacturers do.

    They are already doing it now, if your battery is done for they just say oh well buy a new battery for 10K or a new car lol