I’m assuming this could be why Tesla’s are so cheap compared with similar electric cars.

Let’s take the model y LR and the Kia Ev9 Earth.

The model y LR has a range of 533km with a 75kwh battery

The ev9 earth has a range of 512km with a 99.8kwh battery.

That’s 14.8kwh more than the Tesla and 21km LESS range than the Tesla.

Is Tesla’s cars just more efficient? And by that much??

There’s no way Tesla can be that much more efficient with it’s motor, aerodynamics and electronics. (What am I missing?)

Other brands should be able to do somewhat the same. An electric motor isn’t a complex machine and aerodynamics can be easily improved upon. Same for electronics.

  • kaisenls1@alien.topB
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    Tesla has very efficient electronic components. Cumulative tiny gains in the entire system. Tesla also focuses on frictional efficiencies (drivetrain and rolling) and aerodynamics. And even weight. It’s a systemic approach and they do a good job. The results are there. Yes, they also lean on EPA loopholes for stated range, But still.

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    1. The aerodynamics are better. Drag coefficient is .23 in the Model Y LR
      Vs
      .28 in the Kia EV9

    2. Weight is lower: 4,555lb in the Tesla Model Y LR
      Vs
      5,873lbs in the Kia EV9 with the large battery pack and AWD

    The RWD version might be a bit lighter, but it’s still over 750lbs more than the largest Model Y.

    These are the two biggest factors of efficiency, but there may be some other little stuff that Tesla has done to improve it.

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    Model Y vs. EV9 isn’t a great comparison because the Kia is so much heavier and boxier. But in general, Teslas do have more efficient powertrains. They’ve just had more years working on it. It’s similar to how Toyota has the most efficient hybrids.

    Some have caught up. Lucids are very efficient, as is the Hyundai Ioniq 6.

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    10 months ago

    Our awd ID4 will go about 270 miles on a full charge in the summer assuming 55mph and a flat road.

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    Way to pull the pin on a grenade and drop it in this forum, haha. Efficiency and bang for your buck when purchasing an EV are always gonna be a great time in this sub.

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    Actually efficient electric motors are hard to make. Then add in a lot of other stuff. Don’t take “official” numbers. See what Bjorn says.

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    Tesla lies about its mileage figures. I’ve had a base Model 3 for years and I’ve never gotten more than 180 miles on a full charge.

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    No doubt that Tesla is very efficient and extremely optimized but it’s also an apples-to-oranges comparison with an insane amount of variables.

    And in this case, the Y and Ev9 are two very different vehicles which only magnifies the differences.

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    EV9 gets way more range than a Tesla Semi.

    No seriously. Why are you comparing a Y to an EV9 when there is also an EV6 to compare it with?