• klemptor@lemmy.ml
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      So that little girls of color get to see a protagonist that they can relate to. White shouldn’t be the default and Snow White’s whiteness isn’t actually a defining characteristic of hers. It’s inclusivity, not white erasure.

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        Snow White’s whiteness isn’t actually a defining characteristic of hers.

        Here’s a quote from the (translated) original German tale: “[A queen] had a daughter, with a skin as white as snow, lips as red as blood, and hair as black as ebony, and she was named Snow-white.” That’s pretty much her definition

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          It isn’t really central to the content of her character or the story, though.

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        Are you absolutely sure that "Snow White"s whiteness is no defining characteristic of hers? I mean sure, change Ariel or whoever, but “Snow White”?

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          This is a new level of blatant and boring racism. If someone has a surname of brown, do they need to be non white? Weirdo shit.

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            “Snow White” is the name of the princess because of her alabaster skin. It’s in the story.

            “How I wish that I had a daughter that had skin as white as snow, lips as red as blood and hair as black as ebony.” Some time later, the queen dies giving birth to a baby daughter whom she names Snow White.

            Sure, it doesn’t matter that she’s white, but this story specifically makes it a topic of the plot.

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              But it has no actual impact on the story. If the characters within the story find her skin to be attractive, that’s all you need. White/alabaster was originally chosen because of the values those writers had. These writers have different but equally valid values.

              There is no objective measure of beauty in this world. It’s all down to taste and preference.

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                Yeah, I completely agree, but then the story shouldn’t be about or called “Snow White”

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                  Just FYI, the surname “White” comes from the same place that “Black” does, whitesmithing and blacksmithing. If we’re being pedantic, we have to assume that Snow White’s ancestor worked in tin and silver and not assume that she was given an arbitrary surname because her parents somehow knew she would have alabaster white skin.

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                    I don’t know if this is a translation problem or people never read the story, but the story literally goes „Bald darauf bekam sie ein Töchterlein, das war so weiß wie Schnee, so rot wie Blut, und so schwarzhaarig wie Ebenholz, und ward darum das Schneewittchen genannt.“ i.e. “her daughter was as white as snow […], and that’s why she was called Snow White”. There’s absolutely no ambiguity why she was called the way she was.

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        I’m all for inclusivity and in most cases the race of the cast doesn’t matter. Make little mermaid black, have Cinderella be brown, have Cinderella be whatever. Or better yet, make new stories with varied cast. But in this case however, it’s literally in her name. She was named that because of her skin white as snow.

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      Why does skin color even need to be changed? Why can’t they make new characters of different skin colors, genders and sexualities? Honest question.

      Why did they change Ariel’s skin instead of just making a new little mermaid? Would have caused way less of an uproar from the retarded right wingers and black peoples still get their representation.

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        Because it’s ten thousand times easier and more profitable to market a property that already exists than something new.

        Why do you think remakes and reboots exist at all?

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              Did you read what I wrote?

              There are two separate things here. The IP for little mermaid, and Ariel. I’m talking about changing the movie so it’s not Ariel, but some other mermaid.

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                  You are fucking retarded.

                  No. I’m saying make a new little mermaid movie. Make the main character black. Just don’t call her Ariel. No one would give a shit then, minorities get representation, the movie makes a billion dollars, everyone is happy.

                  How about we remake the color purple but only cast Asian people?

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          Not in the slightest. There should be mermaids that represent every color, ethnicity, and gender.

          I just don’t understand why they need to change a character that was established in the past. Just make a new character with a new name.

          They didn’t change Peter Parker to be black, they made a new character named miles and guess what? It’s the most successful example of using an established ip to create a new character to represent minorities. The first into the spider verse is my favorite movie of all time.

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      They didn’t change her skin color. Just look at a picture of Rachel Zegler. She’s half-Swedish FFS.