New York lost more residents – and at the largest rate – in 2023 than any other state, despite an overall rise in the U.S. population, according to U.S. Census data.

The bureau released a map showing the percentage change in state populations between July 2022 and July 2023 – New York stands out as the only state colored a deep orange, a label for a percentage change of -0.5 or more.

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    If the people equivalent to the entire population of Wyoming moved out of New York, most people wouldn’t notice.

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    I was wondering what would happen to gentrified neighborhoods once they ratched up the cost of living so high that the gentrifiers couldn’t afford it.

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    I’m curious how many people are just leaving the US entirely. Technically this probably wouldn’t represent it since expats are still counted as a resident of whatever state you lived in last untill you revoke your citizenship.

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    moving to places in the south because initially was cheaper and driving up prices such as property taxes for the ones already there

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    That population loss, driven by the pandemic, effectively wiped out nearly three-quarters of the population gains made during the prior decade.

    Pandemic hit the city hard and people do not want to go back for overpriced closets.

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    Huh. We’ve been considering moving to upstate NY from central CA, promarily due to ecological factors like climate, air quality, and what seems like the threat of eternal drought. I like central California well enough, but I’m dead sick of 117 degree Augusts and casually living with air quality that makes your eyes water.

    Anyone got some insight on why NY lost so much population?

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    Watch Rossman Repair’s ordeal trying to rent a shop in NYC ultimately leaving the state.

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      Believe it or not, people might not always have abortion at the top of their list when they’re moving. In fact I’m willing to bet cost of living is near the top of their list.

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        Spot on. Migration is a major factor in affecting political change anyway.

        Some of these comments are so out of touch. The irony is that people who blanket support pro choice will go extinct as they abort more of their children over time or don’t reproduce at all (the people above you in this chain). Conservative people don’t abort (now by law) - their population will grow. Thus more anti-abortion laws will happen.

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    The social services and community involvement are better in Indiana than they were (and appear to still be, though I no longer have direct experience there) in WNY. Health insurance was better in NY, though. If I go back to die there, it will only be for the sake of nostalgia and not any belief that the remainder of my life would be better.

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      Outside of NYC, NY is a red state. But will 100,000 have that great an influence on the electoral college? It doesn’t sound like a lot in a population of 19 million.

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        There are pockets of NY, outside of NYC, that are blue. The big areas that are red are mostly rural counties. But land doesn’t vote, people do, so it doesn’t matter if 1,000 people in a huge area vote red when 100,000 people in a small city vote blue.

        You’re right that NYC helps keep us blue, but they aren’t the only ones. In 2020, NY voted for Biden over Trump 60.8% to 37.7%. If we removed NYC’s counties, NY would have still voted for Biden, but at a much closer 52.4% to 45.9%.

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        I am so country that the only time I ever visited a city I got vertigo and couldn’t look in any direction but down.

        It wasn’t even a huge city. It was Charlotte NC.

        When I was a kid I dreamed of going to a city and playing music and being a part of the culture.

        The girls got to me though and I have instead repopulated a rural area. :p

        I have 7 kids, 2 adopted, 5 biological.

        My guitar is used almost exclusively to play Yellow Submarine and sing the family’s names in place of yellow. “We all live in little Abby’s submarine, in mommy’s submarine, in daddy’s submarine.”

        My youngest thinks Beatlemania is still a thing. First thing every morning. “Daddy, I want my Beatles.” Sister comes in swinging demanding Pinkfong.

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      The literal endless abundance of things to do. Idc if my place is a closet if I’m never in it. Obviously if you’re raising a 5 person family it’s harder, but if you’re solo or DINK then why wouldn’t you

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          There’s no corruption quite like deep country corruption. Oh, you’re dating the sheriff’s daughter? Well we’ll just look the other way…

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            even withstanding, the other issues are still present. I’m not saying cities are hellscapes, but they are lacking a few advantages that rural areas have. I like touching my own plot of dirt on this pale blue dot. My own piece of Earth. There is nothing like the nutrient overload from the first of the seasons garden fresh backyard tomato grown from last years compost. Or building random projects; or just lying on the ground looking at the stars anytime I want. In my book no amount of money would be worth sacrificing all that to live in a dense city for me personally. But this is just my outlook, I understand many other people value things differently.

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              Oh don’t get me wrong, I live in rural Iowa and i love being able to go so deep into the woods there isn’t another person for miles. Lots of land to bike on and plenty of cool places to camp and chill outdoors.

              I’m just saying, corruption can happen anywhere.

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    I have a strong gut feeling that cities will become as dystopian sci-fi foretold. Elite only zones, private police forces etc.

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    Sounds about right. Crushing taxes and stiffling of liberties will do that.