Note that this poll only targetted around 3000 UK adults aged 16+. Nonetheless I personally think the trend this poll highlights is worrying and worthy of discussion.

Also note I changed the original title to not use the terms “Gen Z” and “baby boomers” since I think putting in the ages is clearer.


Some choice quotes:

On feminism, 16% of [16 to 29-year-old] males felt it had done more harm than good. Among over-60s the figure was 13%.

One in four UK males aged 16 to 29 believe it is harder to be a man than a woman.

37% of men aged 16 to 29 consider “toxic masculinity” an unhelpful phrase, roughly double the number of young women who don’t like it.

The figures emerged from Ipsos polling for King’s College London’s Policy Institute and the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership.

“This is a new and unusual generational pattern,” said Prof Bobby Duffy, director of the Policy Institute. “Normally, it tends to be the case that younger generations are consistently more comfortable with emerging social norms, as they grew up with these as a natural part of their lives.”

But Duffy said: “There is a consistent minority of between one-fifth and one-third who hold the opposite view. This points to a real risk of fractious division among this coming generation.”

Prof Rosie Campbell, director of the Global Institute for Women’s Leadership at King’s, said: “The fact that this group is the first to derive most of their information from social media is likely to be at least part of the explanation.

In the meantime, social media algorithms are filling the vacuum, she said. “This could be something that changes when young men enter the workforce but we can’t take that for granted given how important social media is in the way we understand ourselves.”

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    Well. For starters, my best friend who is female saw the exchange online and called it ridiculous. And the “victim” called it mansplaining during the exchange

    In this case, relying on tanks puts others in danger and it was clear this had nothing to do with her being a female. .

    If you don’t want a discussion, don’t post to a public Facebook discussion group lol. It basically means women can offer advice to women, but guys can’t? That’s actually a double standard that only seems to exist within the boundaries of toxic feminism. If op had gone on their hike and the tanks are empty, others would have had to give up their water, because they wanted to hike more comfortably than others

    In this case, the response had more to do with the fact I was male

    The hilarious thing is that most of the people I hike with are females and I have taken the backseat plenty of times for female guides. And I’m definitely not the macho -big car kind of guy either.

    Again, not saying it’s prolific, but rather just saying theres a few bad apples out there who drown out the normal people (toxic masculinity is obviously a much bigger issue here in Australia)

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        When you have more than one female messaging you (including your best friend who is female) saying it was a weird conversation and they agree with you, No… I’m not oblivious lol. Same comment is made to anyone posting similarly dangerous and dumb questions that put others at risk. I really don’t care if they’re female or male.