So I recently started playing role queue ranked, and I have no idea how I can get better, or whats the difference between lower and upper MMR players.

I used to play Starcraft, and I always knew in each league what was my problems, what went wrong in the game, and what I could do better in the next one.

In guardian level games I can see players stopping spirit breaker using charge of darkness with rod of atos in the blink of an eye, using tinker perfectly, starting and finishing every teamfight perfectly, and other plays that I don’t know how can get better. And still its only guardian, and can’t imagine what they do better in immortal.

But dota has so much more factors, like games can get decided during picking heroes, there are 4 other players in the team that I don’t always watch / know what they are doing. Is it even possible to judge a players skill correctly in dota?

In my current league (around guardian 2) 90% of the games are about one team absolutely destroying the other. I feel like whatever I do is pointless, because either the team is doing fine without me, or can’t do anything that will turn the game around, because of bad picks or that 1 or 2 players with 0-9-1 at 8 minutes.

I prefer to play soft / hard support. Not sure how much this sound like “everybody is bad except me”, but I’m totally open to the idea, that I’m just bad. But as I said, I have no idea what I’m doing wrong.

So I was wondering what could I do to get involved in better games. I don’t even dream of getting a high MMR (though it would be pleasing), I only want to play fun and close games where the team works as a team. My only guess / hope is that at higher levels games will get better.

  • Azzu@lemm.eeM
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    1 year ago

    Honestly, at lower levels, counters and synergies between heroes aren’t very important. While they definitely have an impact, just playing better can easily overcome this small dis/advantage. It becomes more important on higher skill levels, but also the way picks are done is usually that the supports pick first, or at most second, so the most you see is ether nothing or 2 enemy/ally heroes, which is not much info to go on. Also, like you already say, you’re guessing more than knowing what to pick, and your guesses are based on your skill level, which heroes are good varies vastly between skill levels, so learning that now will not help you too much later.

    Also, many of the heroes you mentioned play very differently. If you like doing that, I don’t want to discourage you, but theoretically, sticking with 1-3 heroes is better for learning, since playing your hero well is one of the skills in dota, and when you’re practicing that skill all the time since you switch between heroes, you only slowly get to practice the general skills, since you’re distracted by all the differences between heroes.

    It’s like playing random as your StarCraft race when starting out, it’s much harder to practice and learn 9 different (one for each race combination) build orders than just focusing on 3 (one against each race). Of course it’s possible but it’s harder and slower.

    So I don’t want to discourage you, I just want you to be aware of it. An undying plays very differently from a crystal maiden plays very differently from a lion, and you need to be aware of that and not try to mix&match what you learned in one to apply to the other, except of course if it’s general stuff.

    • catlover@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      1 year ago

      Also, many of the heroes you mentioned play very differently.

      I kinda like that, not sure I’m the best at it though :) But it can be fun at least