• porgamrer@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    Okay, but what is the utility in taking the title so literally and ignoring the real content? It’s a vague and mildly provocative title that is quickly clarified.

    The article doesn’t argue that the tech industry is uniquely evil. It is just spreading awareness about a specific phenomenon that is currently happening in the tech industry. That is what good journalism is. People can’t organise a response to something they don’t even know about.

    Besides, the tech industry does have its own culture and that culture is full of problems. Capitalism is very top-down, but it’s our shared culture that allowed tech solutionist billionaires to be embraced as heroes for so long. The least we can do is dispel the bad ideas they hide behind so people stop waiting for tech to save them.

    And sorry if my tone seems rude. It’s not intentional, it’s just a frustrating subject to think about.

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      Software engineering has no culture - shared or otherwise. It’s just a job, you clock in, you clock out, it’s the same prison as anything else but with the comfort of WFH. The only maybe cultural aspect is that people refuse to unionize, but that’s a different issue and a result of material pressures (far too much demand for jobs gives uneven bargaining power).

      Bezos, musk, gates et al were never seen as heroes by those who don’t idolize capitalists and corpos to begin with, and are still seen that way by the rest.

      The future is indeed tech solutions and always has been, not an-prim nonsense and tech will indeed save us (and already has from every problem tackled thus far in humanity’s history, every disease etc.), but those tech solutions have to be aligned with humanity’s interests, and to do that you need to remove the exploitation incentive and the way you do that is by changing economic systems to communism or anarchism.

      Idk I don’t find it very frustrating, it’s very clean cut in my opinion.

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        Software engineering has no culture - shared or otherwise.

        This is absurd. Everything about software engineering is culture. It’s built around shared cultural artifacts and texts. The idea of tech and a tech industry is a purely cultural delineation.

        Bezos, musk, gates et al were never seen as heroes by those who don’t idolize capitalists and corpos to begin with, and are still seen that way by the rest.

        Self-congratulating and utterly defeatist at the same time. Sorry but if you ever want a union it’s pretty important that your colleagues don’t think some CEO is the messiah. If you really haven’t noticed a shift in the perception of tech billionaires in the last 10 years I don’t know what to tell you.

        The future is indeed tech solutions and always has been, not an-prim nonsense and tech will indeed save us

        So you’re a historical materialist who thinks we need a communist and/or anarchist revolution to save us, but who also thinks that we can sit around doing nothing until someone invents one in their garage? What on earth are you talking about?

        the way you do that is by changing economic systems to communism or anarchism.

        Okay but HOW? You seem to think an article that documents the exploitative behaviour of capitalists is somehow actively obstructing this revolution.