At this point he’s basically rubbing it in our faces what we could have had if they had let him run.
Bernie Sanders is a good guy who did nothing wrong. Downvote if you hate freedom and things such as universal access to health care. Upvote if you liked Barbie but hate microplastics and unregulated capitalism. But downvote if you support union busting.
can someone explain to me why tou were downvoted?
Comment was edited. Definitely didn’t say that originally.
Downvote if you don’t support women’s rights.
I would suck multiple dicks in a row to get 32 hour work weeks instead of this bullshit global random work hour salary shit. No I don’t want to fucking hop on a call at 3am.
Sucking dicks is always an option. If your vocation is your vacation, you’ll never work a day in your life!
Monetizing your passion can really suck the joy out of it though
Unfortunately this wouldn’t really affect most salaried employees at all. Being on salary in most situations specifically excludes you from overtime pay, and this is just changing that threshold for people who are eligible for overtime pay (generally hourly employees and those with strong unions). I’m all for it, but a different push needs to be made to ensure that being on salary doesn’t just mean “your life is ours whenever we ask for it”
My union is entering bargaining soon, we’re already starting to leverage this as a talking point
Unions are good for all workers. If you guys can make it happen, then other employers will have to compete with that benefit to get decent workers. People will accept the best deal they can get and will reject shitty deals when they know they can do better, so if employers want some better workers, they will need to up their offerings to attract better applicants. If you guys win 32, other unions will win 32, and then lots of non-union places will need to at least offer 36 to remain relevant.
From all of us, good luck!
aaaaaand thats why he wasnt nominated and never will.
It would just make my overtime pay start earlier. We seldom get away with only a 40 hour week and we work 10s. I mean, I’d take it, but unless they make legislation banning mandatory overtime this only benefits office people.
Does anybody have a breakdown on how this bill works? I love the idea but I don’t understand how it can guarantee no loss in pay for the long term. Companies could just stagnate the higher wages until inflation dilutes the buying power, right?
I also rather selfishly am curious about how this might affect a work schedule like mine. I do rotating shift work, 12 hour shifts. I stagger between 36 and 48 hour weeks. I kinda wonder if my company or entire industry might transition to either more crews locked at 3 12s per week or maybe move to 8 hour shifts and have 3 shifts per 24 hour period. Or maybe my schedule stays the same but the OT kicks in after 32 hours instead of after 40?
Major win for the working class, but I’m cautiously optimistic. If this passes, I’m concerned what bullshit loopholes or exemptions might be included in the final draft.
Companies could just stagnate the higher wages until inflation dilutes the buying power, right?
As opposed to what they already do?
How about eight 3 hour shifts per day and you work 3 consecutive? Or twenty four 1 hour shifts and you work ten. I don’t know if you’re medical, but shift changes are one of the most dangerous times, so maybe staggered shift changes is better for everyone anyway.
I’m a power plant operator. 12 hour shifts is pretty standard, but standards can change. We typically have 3 operators on site 24/7, but some extra support on weekday day shift or when shit goes sideways. If we change hours to suit a bill like this, we will need more than the 4 crews of 3 that we currently have. It seems like the options are either to pay us OT for more of our hours and keep the same schedule, move to 36 hours per week every week and hire an extra crew, or move to 8 hour shifts and hire maybe 2 extra crews? I certainly wouldn’t mind more time at home with my family, especially without a reduction in pay.
IMO pay should be by the week not by the hour, set minimum wage at $1,062.50 a week for up to 32 hours of work, then another $2,656.25 for up to 64 hours of work, then $6,640.63 to an absolute maximum of allowed work in one week of 96 hours.
Makes hours the check against the employer instead of their check against the worker, caps the maximum allowed work in a single pay period, and most importantly I think, turns overtime into something that is more expensive to the employer than hiring an additional worker, putting a financial penalty in for riding your workers until they break instead of properly staffing for the work required.
You can still bring someone in for extra work if you absolutely need to get a crisis set aside, but it’s unfeasible to build your business strategy on just continuing to do that forever.
How are businesses supposed to turn a profit if they can’t bleed their workers dry?
It’s not even about turning a profit anymore. It’s about always making record profits.
And the powers that be either don’t see this as totally unsustainable or just don’t care.
Infinite growth with finite resources. Our economic system is a metaphor for entropy and the heat death of the universe.
I like the concept but I don’t like the hours. Nobody should ever work 96 hours in one week. That’s either seven 13.7 hour days or six 16 hour days. Add morning routine, commute, meals, chores, errands, etc. Seven 12 hour workdays (84 hour week) should be the absolute maximum and it should be extremely costly to employers to ever get close to it. I say that as somebody who has done many 84 hour weeks in his life. It’s not fucking safe. Really anything past 50 hours gets really unsafe really quickly.
There should also be federal legislation that requires OT pay past a certain number of daily hours (preferably 8, but I’d accept 10) AND guarantee some amount of PTO for workers. The US is one of the only developed countries that has no minimum paid time off requirement for employers.
96 hours are plausible if you work on a remote site (e.g. oil rig) and are practically always on the clock. Just because it is insane from a normal person’s pov doesn’t mean it does not exist.
I’m not saying that it doesn’t, I’m saying that it shouldn’t. I’ve never worked on an oil rig, but I’ve traveled to support refueling outages at nuclear plants, so I understand to some extent. Fatigue is a motherfucker. Even if you don’t make a mistake, the exhaustion and lack of sleep still will take years off of your life. Money can’t buy that back. That’s why I’m saying there should be a lower cap in the first place. 84 hours is exactly half of the week, which is why that’s the number I threw out there. Companies shouldn’t get to be exempt just because their exploitative model has already been accepted. If a proposed change doesn’t change anything, then what’s the point?
