I was reading a book on social life of the upper-middle class and new rich of the American 1920s and realized so many things we now do proudly were considered socially taboo back then. This was especially the case for clothing, makeup, women in certain public spaces, etc. What do you think will be different in the 2120s? Or maybe even the next 50 years?
Wearing clothes of the opposite gender.
Hopefully people’s weird hang up about gender all together won’t be around in 100 years.
I can see this happening in the future
It happened in the past.
Time begins and then time ends. And then time begins once again.
It is happening now, it has happened before, it will surely happen again.
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.
We live, we die, then we live again! Ahhhhhhhhhjjjjjj
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I just can’t believe you could wear a flowy floral print summer dress and be considered a dependable guy by everyone. Some cultures put such an high effort to preserve their old ways that I can’t see that going away in 100 years, or even 300 years. The rest of us unfortunately have to play by their rules and taboos.
Oh I can see it go away in the next 100 years. Fashion can be very weird and chaotic.
Also, remember when men didn’t wear pants at all?
Heck, at one point wearing tights and high heels with a big white wig was the height of men’s fashion. Women, meanwhile, didn’t wear high heels or tights at all because those were “men’s clothing.”
So even if society doesn’t accept “men wearing a woman’s flowery sun dress” as normal, things might change so that flowery sun dresses are seen as masculine and guys who don’t wear them could be called various names.
Pants are for barbarians after all. Real, civilicedmen wear togas only. Chitons are acceptable but just barely.
Leggings and codpieces are back in fashion in 3… 2… 1…
Last year, my father called me up to tell me that he saw a guy wearing a dress. He was obviously looking for a “This is surely a sign of the end times” reply, but I just said “So?”
My father then asked me if I’d wear a dress. I replied “it’s not for me, but I’m not going to judge someone who wants to wear one.”
I can definitely see “guy wearing a dress” going from “this is horrible and the guy should be arrested for such indecency” (what might have happened 100 years ago) to “whatever” in 100 years given how attitudes changed between my father’s generation (Boomer) and mine (GenX).
My husband has wore a flowery summer dress for our daughter tea party before and it didn’t make me think he was any less dependable. If anything they reason he wore it and how confidently he wore made me more attracted to him.
God damnit, Bob, how many times have I said no white after Labor Day?
Being topless regardless of gender in public during hot days.
Not in the United States, not even in 100 years. Anywhere else: Maybe.
It’s already legal in several parts of the US
“Legal” is not “not tabood”.
Fair
links to those places and the statues that support that claim?
You could have just googled it yourself but sure
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As I always say: if something is not explicitly forbidden, then it’s fair game.
Austin, not sure about the rest of Texas. Apparently the logic was, if men can go topless, why not women?
In Europe some women already go topless at beaches/lakes.
So long as they wear sun screen lol
The same can be said about bald people.
Honestly this can be taboo regardless of your gender
I’ve seen shirtless dudes doing sports outside (e.g. basketball or jogging - though these activities may be uncomfortable for ladies with big tatas, but that’s another matter.)
Or shirtless dudes in public parks enjoying a barbecue day.
I do concede that these are very specific circumstances, though.
While I do agree that this is a double standard, I don’t see any signs of it going away
It has been a thing in many African and South American indigenous communities for centuries. And it’s a normal thing to do in many European beaches.
So whereas you’re technically right - I don’t see signs of it going away in our communities either - I wouldn’t discard it too quickly.
Prostitution and drugs being illegal.
I have a hard time seeing a proper utopia driven society penalizing these. Everyone should be able to fuck. Everyone should be able to put whatever they want in their bodies too. Dicks or drugs, doesn’t matter.
Total agree with prostitution, Drugs on the other hand are tricky. I like Portugals approach. Decriminalize it for individuals, prosecute the distributors and get those addicted help to get off of it. Seems to work quite good for them.
Some drugs are fine, others not so much. And some people can form bad habits and dependencies on good drugs. Its a tricky situation all around. But yes, thats the best approach imho
But I love drugs.
I’ve recently read it isn’t going so well for them. People aren’t being diverted to rehab as much anymore. The country is attracting addicts that want to get high with no repercussions.
I heard Oregon (?) was having similar issues there where they made similar changes
Free-the-nipple hopefully.
I know there’s a lot of humor over this campaign but the fact that it is illegal for one gender to do something and not the other gender and the length that media and social go to to censor only female nipples is kind of mindblowing.
Sounds like a simple and easy thing that will eventually pass into absurdity but with the whole “save the children” crackdown going on, I’m not optimistic that this is a freedom women will enjoy in a 100 years.
I don’t know that it’ll happen in time for me to benefit from it, but if free the nipple becomes more normalized, I’m hoping my nipples being visible beneath my shirt stops being so taboo (I mean bumps, not sheer shirt). I am sick of deciding I am not going to the store because I don’t want to put a bra on. I feel uncomfortable answering my door without a bra or hoodie. Forget going to family functions or work without extra padding in my bra. I hate it. They’re normal. They’re natural. Stop sexualizing the fact that women have nipples.
Yeah 2023 and theres still some for real Scarlet Letter shit going on if women leave the house in taboo mode apparently.
Be the change you want to see in the world. I am old enough to remember a time before this ridiculous insistence on round lumps instead of boob-shaped boobs and am noticing FINALLY the chokehold of that thick padding and “modesty pads” is waning. Around here I am seeing more ladies braless, and in bras but with a more natural look.
It’s not even remotely immodest to have nipples, boobs come standard with them. I am not sure why the trend of the too smooth profile held on so stubbornly, but it is just a trend. I hate it and always have.
Where’s that illegal? In Iraq or something?
https://gotopless.org/topless-laws
Explicitly Illegal: Indiana, Tennessee, Utah, Mexico
Ambiguously Illegal: Arizona, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Jersey, Nevada, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Virginia, Washington, Washington D.C
I was honestly surprised at seeing laws in some of the more liberal states & DC tbh. Weed is legal - but lady nips still a crime.
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Drugs. The prohibition of psychedelic substances in particular is looking more like a crime against humanity since we are rediscovering their therapeutic properties in the west (that shaman have known for mellenia).
Discussion on the topic of mental health. Virtually nothing was known about mental health until very recently. We are the first generation that even talks about it. Therapy didn’t exist in any practical and organised sense for my mother’s generation. If you got PTSD during WWI, it was a death sentence because your own frigging side would shoot you.
Human genetic modifications for improved physical/mental/emotional performance and aesthetics reasons. I’m sure furries will get what they want someday.
As long as it doesn’t lead to the eugenics wars.
It will.
People need to stop seeing history as something we get to design.
Red Rising incoming :|
God I hope to wag a tail in my lifetime.
Here’s hoping
When pls?
obligatory owo uwu
however, this stuff “still” in Star Trek is somewhat taboo. I know, it’s just pure fiction fron the 60’s-80’s, but the image of the future it depicta feels strangely OK even today.
Polyamory
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Access to abortions, I hope, sh!t is getting long.
Voluntarily chopping off your arm. (To replace it with something else)
To replace it with something else
Like a leg?
Those dirty tri-legs.
My daughter wanted to marry a tri-leg from Pizza Hutt. I said “Girl he’s gonna run out on you first chance he gets … triple time!”
She cried and cried, but deep down I think she thought it was a pretty good joke.
“From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh…”
Seriously though, even some pretty mundane stuff- knees and hips and such that won’t crap out on my when I’m old, teeth that won’t chip even if I do stupid shit like use them as a bottle opener, there’s all kinds of bugs just waiting to be patched out of the human wetware.
And that without even considering the superhuman upgrades that could be considered.
Being overweight. It’s a matter of years before a magic pill cures obesity.
Obesity will no longer be seen as a social taboo, but as a disease than can be cured.
Ozempic already exists. Its only going to get more refined from here.
It’s worth considering that obesity was far, far less common 40-50 years ago than it is now. I don’t know exactly why. It could have to do with something in the food supply, or some other environmental or cultural factor.
How do you see that manifesting?
Hunger suppressant? Prevention of food breakdown? Some meth like energy burning? Some test like muscle growth?
All have dangers.
I suppose you could have some sort of fat camp where you are monitored by doctors and lose like 1kg a week for a couple of months.
How do you see that manifesting?
Hunger suppressant? Prevention of food breakdown? Some meth like energy burning? Some test like muscle growth?
All have dangers.
I suppose you could have some sort of fat camp where you are monitored by doctors and lose like 1kg a week for a couple of months.
Why not a fashion choice?
Because it’s extremely unhealthy?
Hasn’t stopped fashion before
Yes, but also it was once a status symbol to drink lead (because it was sweet). We know better now, and haven’t returned to that.
If you can already be any size you want I’m sure you can make sure to keep the fat out of your organs.
That’s how I see it now.
Could be
Don’t worry too much, Kojima will make a game about it eventually.
I deadass saw the first death stranding trailer and thought it was a commentary on transgenderism.
How?
I am going to operate under the following assumptions:
-the current global trend towards authoritarian governments will continue and become more prevalent
-balkanization will be the new norm: an atlas will show more numerous and smaller countries
-climate change (extreme heat, extreme humidity and sea level rise) will make large regions functionally unfit for human habitation by reasons of lethal heat and/or humidity, loss of coastal access, lack of potable water and/or loss of sustainable agriculture.
-we’ll be well into the technological curve for AI and robotics. We’ll have gone past the early stage where people over-estimate technological capabilities and far into the later stages where people will under-estimate technological capabilities
-if cash is still legal, it will be useless for all legitimate transactions because no institution wants it. If it still exists, it will only be useful for peer-to-peer illegitimate transactions: crime, drugs and sex.
-whatever is bad now will be worseSo: social taboos that exist today that will not be taboo in 100 years?
-slavery: we already see slavery in all but name in the form of privatized prisons and wage-slavery (work a soul-killing minimum wage job, or die/be homeless). What if the cost of being able to emigrate from a country or region that is uninhabitable is slavery, whether real or de facto? It’s the cheapest form of labor.
-murder: being deemed outlaw will make a comeback. An outlaw is outside the protection of the law, so killing an outlaw is not a crime.
-extortion: governments and government proxies (militias, death squads, religious sects) will exercise sanctioned extortion
-hoarding: if you are living in an unstable balkan state or are an unpopular minority in one, hoarding will not be pathologic
-civilian ownership of firearms
-racism and nationalism; best way to keep out undesirable climate refugees is to de-humanize them
-corporations being into every piece of the pie: a logical extension of the trend to privatization or “wanting government to be run like a business” is the replacement of nation-states by corporations or zaibatsu-like alliances of multiple corporationsNo offense intended, but I sincerely hope you are wrong on all accounts. I doubt it, but one can hope…
Final stage capitalism promises the future they describe. What’s left to do when all resources are tapped and people are controlled to be sold? It only makes a future for a select few who sit on the ocean of the populous blood, the bed of ashes that is the earth and it’s depleted resources.
corporations being into every piece of the pie: a logical extension of the trend to privatization or “wanting government to be run like a business” is the replacement of nation-states by corporations or zaibatsu-like alliances of multiple corporations
I personally think corporations are going to kill each other off (most likely culminating in a global corpo-war where the last two duke it out) with only one surviving and becoming something akin to the catholic church in the medieval period, plunging the world into a new dark age.
That was a well thought out and utterly terrifying take. I believe many of the points you’ve made will indeed be true, much to my chagrin.
balkanization will be the new norm: an atlas will show more numerous and smaller countries
How is this not more of a thing? All these countries that didn’t exist until Europe organised them have grown and matured (in a way). But plenty of countries complain about how the boarders were made, why don’t they sort them out and change things?
Like nothing is stopping them from doing it. Blaming it on someone 100 years ago that is long dead isn’t stopping anything from happening.
Sadly, I think many of those things will come true.
I’d be surprised if in 100 years there’s not at least one place in the world where wearing a pet collar is considered socially acceptable.
It’s already here, and has been for decades. Goth clubs, yo.
Is that not just a choker?
I would presume that in 100 years, if humanity still exists, we’ll be deep into a dark age, so there likely won’t be much in the way of widespread taboos at all. Individual clans and tribes will undoubtedly have their own taboos, but there’s no telling what they might be.
What makes you think that a global crisis would reduce humanity to tribes and clans? Isn’t it more likely that desperate times result in something more like a global government and more systematic enslavement of humans? How could the owning class ever pass on the opportunity of not having to work and instead utilize their workers as efficiently as possible?
I believe that the oligarchs will try to do exactly that - I just don’t think that they’ll succeed.
And in trying and failing, they’ll so undermine society and bring about so much frustration and anger that our civilization will not survive.
A global crisis, if severe enough, would make a global government impossible to maintain. If anything, existing governments would struggle to survive.
vegan diets will be more prevalent, it’s more environmentally & economically sufficient, and lab grown meat will eventually be held to higher standards & be more widely available than the farming industry
