This really isn’t accurate. The Mongols ruled China during the Yuan Dynasty. The Manchu ruled China during the Qing Dynasty, which was the final dynasty and was the one that was present during all of imperial European contact. Further, the Xianbei and Xiongnu ruled parts of China for periods. To say nothing of civil wars like the Warring States period or the Taiping Rebellion, in which 30 million people were killed from 1850-1871.
China is drastically more complicated than our eurocentric perspective suggests
The Mongols ruled China during the Yuan Dynasty. The Manchu ruled China during the Qing Dynasty
The Manchu people also known as the Jurchens, are descendents of the mongol and Turks.
Xianbei and Xiongnu ruled parts of China for periods
Yes… Which were both tribes of steppe people from the eastern han dynasty, which is what I claimed in my post.
the Warring States
The Qin dynasty is a bit more complicated as it was multi ethnic, but was originally founded by people who would one day consider themselves Manchu. But this is prior to the han dynasty and really before conflict in the area stratified into mostly ethnic based conflicts.
Taiping Rebellion
I already covered the Taiping rebellion in a separate reply.
China is drastically more complicated than our eurocentric perspective suggests
Lol, I’m Korean, a descendent of the Manchu people.
I think the problem you are having is that in Europe transitioned away from classical imperialism much sooner than Eastern Asia. So most you tend to have a hard time separating nationality with ethnicity, as that is typically how you guys divided empire into nation states
So when you use vernacular like mongol, you don’t realize that it’s interchangeable with things like steppe people, Manchu, or Jurchen depending on what era or dynasty you are talking about.
This really isn’t accurate. The Mongols ruled China during the Yuan Dynasty. The Manchu ruled China during the Qing Dynasty, which was the final dynasty and was the one that was present during all of imperial European contact. Further, the Xianbei and Xiongnu ruled parts of China for periods. To say nothing of civil wars like the Warring States period or the Taiping Rebellion, in which 30 million people were killed from 1850-1871.
China is drastically more complicated than our eurocentric perspective suggests
The Manchu people also known as the Jurchens, are descendents of the mongol and Turks.
Yes… Which were both tribes of steppe people from the eastern han dynasty, which is what I claimed in my post.
The Qin dynasty is a bit more complicated as it was multi ethnic, but was originally founded by people who would one day consider themselves Manchu. But this is prior to the han dynasty and really before conflict in the area stratified into mostly ethnic based conflicts.
I already covered the Taiping rebellion in a separate reply.
Lol, I’m Korean, a descendent of the Manchu people.
I think the problem you are having is that in Europe transitioned away from classical imperialism much sooner than Eastern Asia. So most you tend to have a hard time separating nationality with ethnicity, as that is typically how you guys divided empire into nation states
So when you use vernacular like mongol, you don’t realize that it’s interchangeable with things like steppe people, Manchu, or Jurchen depending on what era or dynasty you are talking about.