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Three soldiers pounce on a shepherd sitting outside his sheep pen. They knock him over and then one of them shoots him to death at point-blank range. Fakher Jaber, a father of four, was suspected of involvement in an incident that probably never happened
On the last day of his life, two and a half weeks ago, the shepherd and his wife got up at 5:30 A.M., as usual, and immediately went out together to milk the ewes. With their flock of 120 sheep, their work is never done. Maryam recalls now that they didn’t manage to eat breakfast before the daily Ramadan fast began. After about two hours they finished milking. Fakher took the sheep out to graze and she began to make cheese from the milk, which they sell in Nablus to help make their living.
After he returned the sheep to their pen, Fakher sat down near it, removed the Quran from his pocket and began to read from it. Maryam finished making dinner. She remembers that everything was normal and relatively peaceful that afternoon, in this beleaguered community, living under the constant threat of invasions by settlers. Suddenly Maryam heard shouting. She rushed outside and saw three Israelis in uniform yelling at and wrestling with her husband. One of the men was masked, which led her to believe that they were settlers – of the type that frequently assault the shepherding communities, graze their livestock on the residents’ lands and water their flocks from their wells.
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Zionist == Nazi
All Jews in all countries except Zionist Jews are against this bloodshed.
It’s a race war disguised as a crusade.
And Jews will declare war against fascism once again. Torah Jews seem the legitimate channel for Jews to act against facism and support for Palestinian existence.
One hopes. Sucks about having to ditch their holy symbol tho. I’ll have to buy a rabbi a beer over that.
Zionist = Nazi; Zionist == Nazi;
No the Nazis had fashion, and still at least had German culture. The parts they didn’t burn for being too philosophical or gay.
Zionists don’t even have that much. They’re worse.
No. Just don’t. Don’t be that guy. Or girl.
That’s the thing, the Nazis are as bad as you think they are (worse and stupider, probably)
Nazis are still foolish.
There is no such thing as a German Anglo-Aryan race with blue hair and blonde eyes.
Hilter made it up.
But it was 20 years too early for the discovery of DNA.
Neo-nazis are even stupider to still believe that nonsense like flat earthers.
Oh it was even dumber than that, seriously. Look up ‘hyperborean Atlantis’.
Are you rooting for Nazis?
They are saying that creating a “who’s the worst bad guy” competition isn’t helping in any way.
Not quite what I was saying, but I completely agree. Probably what i shouldve been saying.
Theres a moral event horizon after which ‘kill em all’ is the only conscionable option, and I think both groups are well past it.
No. I’d just make sure, if I had the option, to shoot them in the head so I could steal their clothes after.
Not really
Good argument. 30,000 dead say otherwise.
That’s still far less than holocaust.
The holocaust did not define genocide, it simply was one. Intent defines genocide.
The genocide of American Natives happened FAR before the holocaust.
Yes, it’s the intent, hence why it’s tough to prov.
Intent is clear and was shown at the ICJ case, that’s why it was ruled a plausible genocide and ordered Israel to take actions to prevent genocide. Israel was failed to do, which is why the ICJ ruled on additional measures in March. Which again Israel has failed to do.
There is over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.
The Court considers that, with regard to the situation described above, Israel must, in accordance with its obligations under the Genocide Convention, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular: (a) killing members of the group; (b) causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; and (d) imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. The Court recalls that these acts fall within the scope of Article II of the Convention when they are committed with the intent to destroy in whole or in part a group as such. The Court further considers that Israel must ensure with immediate effect that its military forces do not commit any of the above-described acts.
Application of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in the Gaza Strip (South Africa v. Israel) and Summery by the International Court of Justice
You will be hated in the history books. People like you will be among the worst that ever existed.
You’ll be remembered tomorrow how Hitler is today.
Hope you’re happy with that. ☺️
https://twitter.com/BenEhrenreich/status/1719743488500064548?lang=en
This reply made me laugh, it’s quite funny actually.
So?
You’re going to have a hard time with that answer when you face your God.
Not really
To be fair, or isn’t exactly the same thing.
We stopped the Nazi government by force.
We’re arming the Israeli government and asking them to pretty please pretend to be careful about keeping civilian casualties out of the news.
Seriously. Slander against Nazis. I didn’t even know it could be done.
You’re not a “settler” if you’re settling land that somebody already lives on. You’re an invader.
I agree, and not applicable in Palestine generally, but you can be a settler as in settling next to other people. Someone farming land doesn’t mean you can’t farm next to them and peacefully coexist.
Is there anything in Jewish religious texts about shepherds tending flocks as an analogy for their version of god and followers like Christians have? Murdering a literal shepherd tending his flock while reading his version of a bible is off the charts I think. Not that anyone uses religion for anything other than justification for whatever awfulness they’re engaging in.
But everything is off the charts these days.
From the article…
There were two bullet holes in his chest and one near his groin.
Am I reading that right, did they actually try to shoot his penis?
Also from the article…
Three days after Fakher’s killing, three other shepherds from the same community were arrested on suspicion of assaulting a settler. They are still in custody.
The IDF, US and other Zionists will claim it was out of self-defense.
When are other countries going to step up and do something about this horrifying genocide.
To be fair this is how American police kill people. Engage perfectly innocent person, escalate it because they aren’t 100% respectful of your authority and finally shoot them because they didn’t follow your orders after you claimed to see a weapon.
Not a coincidence; most police departments in the imperial core are trained by Zionist shutzstaffel.
That’s after they first try to pin it on Palestinians themselves.
Which country isn’t so afraid of the US bombing them in retaliation that they’ll stand up to us? There aren’t many. And to stop Israel at this point you will need boots on the ground.
Russia is too bogged down in Ukraine, and China doesn’t want to have their trade affected.
There’s really no one left.
Countries? Never. Gotta get rid of some of those, then we’ll be free to help.
The IDF: “Oh no! They’re reading! Only Hamas reads!”
All the schools exploded, therefore if anyone learned how to read its because Hama’s taught them. And why would anyone need to learn how to read except to read the instructions on imported weapons because they’re a soldier? QED antisemites
-every kapo
Can we just charge them with war crimes already?
You can’t. Those guns and bombs they use, we pay for 'em. If we charge them with war crimes, we are charging ourselves with war crimes. And we don’t want that, don’t we? Just vote for a lesser evil clown or a billionaire racist idiot and make yourself feel like you’ve done your part. It’s easier to sleep that way. It’s democracy© we’re protecting after all. What’s a few thousand more killed for something this precious.
♫♫♫ OH SAY CAN YOU SEE…
You can’t. Those guns and bombs they use, we pay for 'em. If we charge them with war crimes, we are charging ourselves with war crimes. And we don’t want that, don’t we?
I kinda do
I’m not talking about the US. There’s a reason the US is not a member of the ICC.
Well, yeah, they don’t play cricket.
Only one kind of charge needs to happen here.
Reminder that the IDF is a terrorist organisation.
*shutzstaffel
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You mean receives billions in welfare. The Iron Dome is an American system.
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https://www.rafael-usa.com/programs/iron-dome/
Rafael and Raytheon are producing it both are American companies. That israel is field testing their weapons doesn’t mean it’s israeli innovation. Furthermore America is giving free handouts to israel to buy these missiles from them.
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You are right I found their link on top. Since I read America supplies many interceptor missiles I thought that it was America made.
The funding very much does seem to be American though
The initial funding and development of the Iron Dome system was provided and undertaken by Israel. This allowed for the deployment of the first two Iron Dome systems. Subsequently, funding for additional Iron Dome systems—along with repeated funding for the supply of the interception missiles—has been provided by the United States.[From 2011 to 2021, the US contributed a total of US$1.6 billion to the Iron Dome defense system, with another US$1 billion approved by the US Congress in 2022.
I found it weird that an Israeli publication is reporting on the horrors of the IOF.
Haaretz is weird. Many articles are the some old israeli propaganda but they have some left wing writers which write and investigate israeli war crimes and even articles against their government.
The person who writes the article makes all the difference on Haaretz.
Terrorist gonna terrorize
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Here is an archive link if you are hitting a paywall.
Sadly, until the IDF starts investigating and prosecuting their members for war crimes (and stops assigning people without the required education, skills and psychological traits to essentially do police duties) - some parts of the IDF will continue to perform the role of recruiting Palestinians into extremist and militant organizations. :(
I would not be surprised if one of the dead man’s relatives decides at some point to take up weapons.
The quoted article is a bit short on details of what the shepherd was supposed to have done.
The quoted article is a bit short on details of what the shepherd was supposed to have done.
Not sure if you mean to warrant an investigation by the three troops, or to trigger the actual shooting.
If it’s the actual shooting, from the article (highlighted parts)…
The panicked Maryam and her children watched Fakher, who was on the ground. According to B’Tselem field researcher Salma a-Deb’i, who investigated the case, he grabbed a stone, evidently for self defense. It never left his hand. To his family’s horror, one of the troops pointed his rifle at Fakher – a man probably the age of that soldier’s father, laying on the ground. No fewer than three bullets were fired directly into the shepherd’s body. Maryam screamed in terror and apparently fainted. The eldest son, Qusay, tried coming to his father’s aid but the soldiers threatened to shoot him too. Little Ibrahim also saw his father slain before his eyes. “My father is gone, my father is gone,” the boy shouted, again and again.
It’s West Bank colonists that israel now employs as soldiers to terrorize Palestinians. They make up any story they want and the IDF will claim it as the truth and declare the soldiers innocent
Which people can’t fuckin read because its behind a paywall.
“Following receipt of a report of the assault of an Israeli boy by two Palestinians near the Gitit roadblock on March 19, forces from the Jordan Valley Brigade rushed to the scene. A disturbance involving some 30 Palestinians developed, which included throwing of stones at the forces. The troops acted to disperse the disturbance and fired at one of the suspects. A hit was detected. The circumstances of the incident are under review.”
Thank you
Did someone record this or how do we know exactly what happened?
They interviewed the wife. Who was literally watching from her window while terrorists murdered her husband.
Sounds like the wife saw it happen if she saw them wrestling. Or are you doubting her recounting of events?
In a witness vs witness situation I doubt everything, yes. How should we know who is saying the truth? Because of the heart warming story about how they life their live I should route for the shepherd? I do not. I usually doubt everything, always, regardless who says it or what it is about. To me, this is hearsay. The other side was not even asked to tell us their side.
It’s a news article not a court.
And the murderers will never be brought up on charges because Israelis don’t see Palestinians as people.
Don’t be like the Israelis. Have some compassion.
There’s a fucking corpse with a bullet hole and an eye witness. Plus, settler gangs commit acts of violence pretty much daily. What the fuck else do you think happened if not the thing that happens all the time?
You’re right. We should make sure that there is a thorough investigation by some kind of neutral third party to reveal the truth. I propose as a first step to establishing all the evidence that the Israelis should get the fuck out of the West Bank. They are obviously a biased party with a vested interest in this. So they should not have any fucking authority in the area just in case they try any shenanigans.
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Ah yes, because that strategy worked so wonderfully in 2005 with Gaza.
You know what, that tired bullshit argument has a point. Yes, to avoid a repeat of what happened after the Gaza pullout, the Israelis should take some additional corrective steps: do not intentionally prop up extremists to undermine the PA, like they did with Hamas, formally recognize Palestine, sign a treaty, pay reparations, give refugees the right to return, and commit to a policy of non intervention while the Palestinians fight out whatever internal civil war will inevitably follow the establishment of their newly liberated society (like the Irish civil war of 1922-23). That should probably do it. But there might be other concessions that they might have to accept, ultimately fair game in the name of establishing a lasting and just peace after 70 years of oppression of the Palestinians.
That’s great in fairy land. In reality that’s going to cause more terrorist attacks directed at Israel, as said terrorists can now operate freely in the area.
As for reparations, how about Israel work out a plan to ween the West Bank off the Israeli provided resources they’re already heavily reliant on instead?
On the right to return, you’re even more confused. They can return to he west bank all they want. What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Idealistic bullshit is great online. It gets you plenty of up votes, when applied to reality, you’ll find it quite lacking.
What they actually want is to return to where Israel is and for it to stop existing.
Why do you think that is? Because where Israel is was their home that was stolen. They have stolen more and more territory, even just in recent days they have annexed land that is according to all treaties supposed to be Palestinian land.
Ok buddy. Tell me what you imagine is the basis for a realistic long term peaceful solution. Because the “idealistic bullshit” that I’m proposing is the stuff that actually brought peace in Europe after two fucking word wars and in places like Ireland after many decades of troubles. I.e., if tried and tested solutions are not realistic, tell me what is. Here’s the catch though: you’re not allowed to argue for ethnic cleansing.
You mean when they didn’t actually leave? They blockaded Gaza and constantly raided it. So much leaving going on there.
How about actually learning history instead of spouting bullshit. Israel only had to start taking action, after the constant terrorist attacks out of Gaza.
Everyone knows that the whole reason for the American Civil War was the Fort Sumter attack. That was when the timeline started, there were no deeper reasons, no history for decades prior. Anyone bringing up things like slavery are just doing it to dilute the crime of the Fort Sumter attack. If only the Confederates had not attacked Fort Sumter, the whole Civil War thing would never have happened.
Also, nobody needs a memory longer than a goldfish’s.
Lmao.
A. Yep I’ve read the history.
B. If they only took action against Gaza after terrorist attacks then why were they in Gaza in the first place?
They blockaded Gaza because they didn’t like the resistance movement actually winning the elections. Instead of trying to work with them they declared war right away. And yes that’s what a blockade is, an act of war. Israel has been at war with Gaza for nearly 20 years by that action alone. More if you count the illegal occupation before.
They don’t get a pass just for being Israel.
Why the hell would they be there on their property otherwise? Just think for a second.
You’re asking a conservative zionist to think. It’s not gonna happen.
I’m instantly suspicious of any claims that “there they were minding their own buisness reading the bible on the porch”.
I guess you haven’t been paying attention then. There are too many verified videos to count of people sitting doing nothing being shot by sniper fire, hit with a drone strike, ran over by a tank, bound and executed, etc. There have been numerous cases of children shot by sniper drones while going to and from hospitals.
It’s Ramadan, fasting and contemplating their religion is what many, many Muslims are doing right now.
Sounds like a you problem.
On the last day of his life, two and a half weeks ago, the shepherd and his wife got up at 5:30 A.M., as usual, and immediately went out together to milk the ewes.
Can we please stop with this dramatization?
Edit: All the downvoters probably did poorly in social studies. Did you all pay attention when they taught you about journalistic integrity? Judging by how most of you argue, I’m guessing you slept through that just like the lessons on citing.
Dramatization? These are literally a series of facts. Maybe there’s something else bothering you?
No, it’s the dramatization.
You’re just upset I’m even slightly critical of something supportive of Ukraine.
No, it’s the dramatization.
You’re just upset I’m even slightly critical of something supportive of Ukraine.
I think you’re in the wrong thread. Not the fascism youre being paid to shill for. This is about the worse one.
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Go home, you’re drunk.
We get it, you hate Gazans and you’re here with your brand new account to dehumanize them.
You absolutely do not get it.
Read through my post history and you’ll see I have no problem calling Zionists nazis.
But you also won’t come back and admit you were wrong, lol.
That’s how the tribe operates.
Humanizing Palestinians by accurately recounting what happened? Now this is going way too far.
You can accurately account what happens without flowery language that exists to influence the reader’s perception.
This should be a news article, not a novel.
So when articles be like
- Genocide is currently happening in Gaza by Israeli government.
- The people woke up, milked the cows and got shot by the IDF
Both are not good, so which one? While both are true and can be backed up by evidence.
Because no matter how an article is written, it seems people always complain about something.
No. These are fucking people dying. Lives ending. You need to remember that. People, living breathing human beings every Fucking day so some monstrous ghouls can cum. Its disgusting, and every moment it continues should be a stain on your, on my, on every living person’s fucking soul.
They want us to cry over every dead zionist shutzstaffel piece of shit. I bet if I checked your profile, I wouldn’t find you objecting to those entirely made up¹ sob stories
¹because they have no humanity. They are only atrocities. Only killing, abusing defiling. They can do no other.
I can tell you did poorly in social studies.
Which youre only saying because you have no coherent response to the content of my message.
