President Joe Biden named Donald Trump as the “primary threat” to “freedom and democracy” in the United States.

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    6 months ago

    Anyone still thinking of Trump as the cause instead of the symptom is kidding themselves. He’s been powerless for almost 4 years now and MAGAism is at an all-time-high. There’s a much larger reckoning America needs to face instead of pinning Trump as some sacrificial lamb.

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      6 months ago

      Let’s start by getting rid of that fat fuck and send him to prison until he ends up in a pine box.

      Fuck him.

      Then, let’s go after all the other traitors.

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      6 months ago

      And pneumonia is just a symptom of AIDS, COVID, etc. Sometimes the symptoms will kill you before the cure can be implemented. Ignoring the dangerous effects would be just as foolish as not addressing the root cause.

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      He isn’t powerless though. Mike Johnson blocked the border bill, and is blocking any other bill exactly, because he told him to do it.

      He currently isn’t holding any office, but the GOP is still doing what he tells them.

      Him not having power is only on paper.

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        6 months ago

        Trump has more control of the GOP Congress than Biden does of the Dems in Congress.

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          Well… I’m not sure I’d want the President to control the legislature, regardless of who the incumbent is. Checks and balances and such…

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      6 months ago

      Yes, he is the symptom, but he’s also the greatest threat to this country at the moment. Capitalism will eventually need to be done away with, but that’s harder to do under a fascist dictatorship.

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      Face what? Poorly funded educational systems? Christo-fascism? Social Media? Corporate-run/for-profit news/media outlets? Funny how the guy not in power has so much pull in our government that he could persuade the Republican-controlled house of reps to withhold voting on immigration - the very thing this ‘lamb’ uses to scare up his base. Sorry my guy, but he’s part of the problem, too.

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        6 months ago

        All of the above and then some. A person doesn’t get ~74,000,000 votes off a campaign of overt hatred without some larger societal issues in effect; people whose lives are going great don’t generally respond well to “we need to get rid of these people.”

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      Just because the gun we have to our head was bought by someone doesn’t make it not the biggest threat right now

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    6 months ago

    I think it is more the oligarchy that rules everything and controls all the media. Trump is a POS, but he is a symptom of a larger problem.

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      6 months ago

      You mean Biden’s donors? Yeah, he isn’t going to call them out. Far easier to fear monger about evil orange man bad!

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    More specifically its the people that support and enable him. If it wasnt him it would be someone else. The undercurrents of fascism have been brewing since before the end of ww2

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      I’m not saying you’re wrong, but calling Trump’s supporters a “basket of deplorables” is probably not the best way to get some of the more moderate, more-likely-to-be-wooed voters away from him on election day.

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        6 months ago

        True. Gotta stop that too. Speaking from an emotional state gets you shorted in almost everything

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      WW1 and actuallyarguably since the hapsburgs captured the vast majority of European power through marriages.

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    Bull shit, the biggest threat is the entire sum of Christian nationalists who are using trump as their pawn.

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        You and everyone who downvoted is a total and complete idiot if you think a failson like Trump is your problem and not the organized 50 year planning of christian fascists in your country. I don’t give a shit though, there is nothing stopping fascism from destroying the US and everyone it. Get fucked

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          You make a good point, but it’s also a covered up by being a complete douchebag. Such a shame. Maybe start by being civilized when talking to people online.

          I would agree that there’s been a massive and well organized push by Christian fascists to destroy this country. However, to act like Trump is a pawn I think is wrong. He has benefited significantly from this dynamic.

          Trump realized a long time ago that the Christian fascist party could be easily manipulated to get him whatever power he wanted. This is why he dropped all his pro choice liberal principals and jumped fully into the Christian fascist party. And it worked!

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          If you create a giant monster and set it out to attack a city, I don’t think its really smart to say monster isnt the biggest problem at a given moment. Unless giant monsters can be grown quicker than they can be defeated the realistic priority is going to be to deal with the giant monster first and then deal with the architects afterward.