The software maker will use the Recommended section of the Start menu, which usually shows file recommendations, to suggest apps from the Microsoft Store.
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Ads were already there for years - for Facebook, TikTok, Candy Crush, and who knows what else.
I would say this is embarrassingly unprofessional, but the truth is this is just normal these days - normalized by Facebook and Android - and I’m just old and used to better software.
I switched to Linux the same year they appeared.
How long until we get 10sec unskippable ad on bootup, please make it fast Micro$oft.
I already basically get that half the time I boot into windows after an update. They say “let’s finish setting up your PC” and try to get you to pay for one drive, office, even game pass.
I’m so glad gaming on Linux has gotten to such a good state. I barely ever boot into windows now. (The “ad” on boot up is probably only once every few months, but that’s about as often as I boot into windows).
the next logical step is 10s ads before launching any program
Please pay $10 to skip the ads
That’s included with your gold tier Microsoft 365 subscription. Also there’s tiers now.
-Microsoft, probably
Well, of course. I mean it’s not like you paid for a Microsoft Windows license when you bought your computer, so obviously they have to advertise to financially support it. If you’re getting something for free, you’re the product.
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Wait, I’m being told that when people buy computers with Windows installed, they are, in fact, paying for a Windows license, too.
So this is actually Microsoft trying to turn products they’ve already sold into continuous revenue streams at the cost of usability and customer happiness.
In other news, apropos of nothing in particular, Steam on Linux is working really well these days, with lots of AAA titles running just fine via Proton. Make of that what you will…
Kernel level anticheat for a few games is the only real speedbump I’m aware of, and it’s only on a couple of game franchises like CoD I think. I would love it a ton of people made the switch and it hurt those games’ companies revenue noticeably enough that they look for a way to moderate cheating without just lazily requiring Windows in order to play online.
Linux is finally convenient enough to realistically steal swaths of customers from Microsoft, and it’s at the same time that Windows 11 is pissing a ton of people off. We’re in for some strange times.
“Kernel-level anti-cheat” is just company talk for rootkit. I’ll pass.
I doubt that it reliably stops DMA boards anyway.
I posted this in another thread but it doesn’t, DMA boards are capable of spoofing other PCIE device IDs which was one of the few ways vanguard used to detect DMA boards. Realistically the only anti cheat that actually works are replay based community voted convictions such as counter strike’s overwatch.
There are way too many games out there for me to care anymore. Once i build my new PC, its Linux only. If it doesn’t run on Linux, I don’t need to play it.
This is the way.
I’m also looking forward to when game companies try to add kernel level anti cheat to Linux/s
that they look for a way to moderate cheating without just lazily requiring Windows in order to play online.
I would avoid those kernel level
malwaresanticheat anyways, whether they’re for Windows or if they port them to Linux (“to run this game, please load this kernel module”… no thanks).Rainbow six siege and valorsnt are other examples
Honestly, the big deal isnt Linux getting better (it has. Slowly.) But windows enshittifying so hard.
Love a windows feature you just can’t let go for Linux? Better find a way to prevent system updates, or it could vanish overnight!
Generally People don’t give a shit. Ive learned you gotta use the same tactics as windows and shove it in their face. My parents think they have been using windows for over a year now but I secretly installed Linux mint on their systems made it look like windows. They haven’t even fucking noticed they only use a browser for emails and Facebook. When my friends ask me to help build their PC and bring a windows os I bring a Linux os and say its all I will install and troubleshoot
I had thoughts along these same lines the first time I fired up a Linux Mint VM last year. The most basic computer users would have their experience enhanced by being stuck with a system they “don’t know.” They can do all the same browser based activities on a system that’s probably more responsive and more stable.
Yeah I don’t see it being any different then them using windows they were already stuck with a system they didn’t know. And now their computer will last much longer as well
I wish this was true…
…but there’s still a few technical issues that keep things from running smooth.
Also, VR.
I play VR on Linux, it works surprisingly well, especially via Wayland. There’s an app called Envision that sets up basically everything you need for you. Unlike a few years ago, I had to do no fiddling, it just works.
I have a Quest 2.
For that the recommendation is ALVR
Which I have already tried - it don’t Wayland, and I get legendary stuttering when moving about. No go.
So you bought proprietary windows hardware and youre upset it doesn’t have good enough performance? Seems short sighted but okay.
You’re the only one acting upset
I bought what was affordable on the used market. And VR stuff is almost entirely Windows exclusive, with only the Index having a native Linux compatibility via the recent SteamVR Linux port. While the Quest series (and a Pico, its Chinese competitor) run a special version of Android, they don’t have the performance in standalone mode that a PC has. Besides, my library of VR games are all on the PC.
And before you say “you shold have Index”, I will point out the very, very high cost and requirement for external tracking hardware, aka “the lighthouse”, something I lack the space for.
We’re not paying for the updates, though. I don’t recall paying Microsoft for anything in ages, and I have a legit copy of windows 10 installed.
To most people, now that windows is mostly stable, there’s no draw to upgrade when a new major version comes out. Why volunteer for new os growing pains when the last Gen works great? Even more so if you have to buy another license.
Linux never looked so good!
Or templeOS.
agreed. Now is the time to visit the linux community and figure out how to get started.
Linux Mint is a good distro to try out!
This. Then if you want to expand your horizons, OpenSUSE.
Yeah starting with Mint and then go further if you want to makes sense.
Personally I would suggest Fedora with KDE.
It seems to me more robust with hardware support, it’s indirectly backed by a major company, it gets updates often to stay compatible for gaming, and one click gets you proprietary drivers/software support.
100% agree been using Linux for 15 years and will never stop plus once you learn everything there is to know about how Linux works if something breaks odds are you can fix it yourself or report it with logs faster if you contribute your self as well.
“Drink verification can to unlock your PC”
Shit I’ll take that idea over an ad on any day of the week
One of the most hated features of Windows 10 and they removed it just to add it back later lmao. They deffo had this planned all along and knew it would hurt their already terrible upgrade rates if they added it from the start
Windows is becoming more of a shit show everyday, comically so. Glad I finally installed Linux Mint today. I’ve used Windows exclusively up until now and just quit cold turkey, putting Mint on my daily driver. I was hesitant to upend my computer habits by swapping OS, but I should have done this ages ago. I’m sure I’ll run into some kind of issue sooner than later, but I’ll take a technical problem over one manufactured by a corporation’s greed any day.
One of uf, one of us!
I made the transition to Linux Mint at the beginning of the year. I just booted into Windows the other day and saw that it had been six weeks since the last time.
Ah finally, Windows and Cheap chinese android phone have something in common. Ads in their built in
bloatwaresapps.Cheap chineseAll android phoneAll android phone
Not Fairphones. Fairphones are ad-free, bloatware-free and privacy-focused.
FP4 user here. while that is true, any android ROM with google services on it isn’t privacy-focused.
but i don’t want to miss out on clash of clans, so here i am using their bullshit spyware.
Their mission is amazing but I’m not going to sit here and pretend any Google-laden Android isn’t also ad-laden.
The Murena Fairphones in the U.S. are de-googled. They have replacements for pretty much everything, including email. You can import your google contacts. You can import your google calendar into the de-googled calendar and access it from app or web just like the google version. The only google stuff on my fairphone is what I put on it myself. And I can still download and run every app on the google play store if I choose.
Murena Fairphone
That’s awesome, never heard of this! I was referring to the stock Fairphones, which are absolutely Google-filled. But if someone is reselling them with all that crap stripped then that project is for sure worthy of recognition.
I would not say all some of us run Graphene OS with Google Play Services stripped from Android.
Well, that’s fair. You’re an absolutely miniscule minority of Android users though
That is very true indeed but my battery lasts for 2 days though because of it so I’ll call that a win.
Tbh so does my stock Xiaomi. I don’t have a google account on it though.
Where do the battery gains come from?
I’m guessing it’s a combination of general optimizations, Google Play services & store not having the same level of background and network capabilities, and more control over background apps in general.
OK. I have no google services running but do not get amazing battery. Its probably because I have a couple of messaging apps awake in the background though. I tried self-hosting push notifications but didn’t get it working reliably.
So google play services on android along with Google store are installed in the root system the can basicly do whatever the want permission wise play services is always running in the background and is a huge battery drain by not having it installed at all you are gaining more battery life.
I would guess google play services
Moto G60s, I can’t remember the last ad I have seen.
Just moved away from Windows 11 to Nobara. Enough is enough.
How’s that fairing? I’ll be switching once the last few games I care about get support, but as someone new to Linux with a NVIDIA card I’m feeling a little lost.
Lemmy likes to say Nobara is great for gaming but Mint is great for newcomers, and I really don’t want to have to come home and tinker with my PC after work.
I did the install yesterday, I’ll know in time. I’m not the most extreme gamer, I am not interested in competitive gaming or bleeding edge tech spec games. I think that’s where you see the most backlash to Linux for gaming. I will definitely be chiming in with my experience here on Lemmy.
Interesting how most comments state gaming is the only thing pushing linux adoption back. May be true… for gamers.
But yeah, granny probably wouldn’t notice Mint if all she does is browser the web.
Granny doesn’t need a PC anymore. That’s what’s hurting Microsoft more than anything and why they’re desperate to generate more Windows revenue.
Smartphones and tablets have eliminated the need for 3 PCs per household. Linux is growing in market share, but that has more to do with the number of new Windows machines decreasing than a massive growth in Linux.
put my parents on a auto update and locked down Ubuntu after having to repair their malware ridden laptop for the thousands time. Haven’t heard a complaint in 2 years now, all they do is login and click the Firefox logo anyway.
they really are trying to fuck themselves over, aren’t they?
i’m gonna switch as soon as game devs realize linux needs anticheat support.
and i know a lot of people who don’t care what operating system they run as long as they can use their web browser on it.
i’ve been testing not using windows ever again. since 2004.
it’s great.
Don’t worry, I’m sure there will be “pro” version that you can pay extra for no ads.
This isn’t an ad, it’s a suggested result from one of our partners
How sure?
For how long?
Until there is a ‘pro max’ version
Unlimited teir, please give us full access to your bank account to stop seeing ads, sorry telemetry CAN NOT be turned off
Microsoft is the school bully who keeps shoving you and saying: “what are you gonna do about it?”
Risk toying in the registry to kill it, of course 🏴☠️
