• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      That Americans have to pay to survive in any capacity- food, healthcare, shelter… it’s the sign of a sick society. My daughter asked me why we have to pay a bill to get water in and sewage out of our house instead of just have that be a government thing. She’s only 13 and even she realizes capitalism is fucked up.

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        Hopefully you realize that if the government is paying for it then that means you are too. I’d argue paying for your personal use of water makes more sense as it incentivizes you to limit wasting fresh water which wouldn’t be the case if it was “free”

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          That’s not empirically true. I pay for water as a flat rate in Quebec as part of my municipal taxes, as do all of my neighbors, and I don’t see people engaging in flagrant water wastage. Lawns routinely go yellow during the hottest parts of the summer, I rarely see people washing their cars, and low flush toilets are getting increasingly common.

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            You start with a claim about empiricism while using anecdotes which is an interesting choice

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            A public utility handles mine and yet it still costs money. Odd.

            Maybe this 13 year-old isn’t the oracle I initially suspected

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          Lots of 13 year olds are dumb, doubly so if their parents are dumb, and think “capitalism is when things cost money”

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            You’re right. It is dumb to not understand the difference between privatized services and government services…

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      Absolutely. Binding any basic need to profits is atrocious if you think about it.

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      There’s a little bit of nuance here, “for profit” isn’t the same as “for greed”. Organizations of any kind - corps, non-profits, governments - have to remain essentially “solvent” or “profitable” to even operate - they can’t function just perpetually burning through resources. A medical org, even one that’s a “corporation”, can run a profit but not be governed by greed (though obviously that’s not the case everywhere right now).