Wait, so you’re telling me my doctors won’t actually break into my residence illegally and discover that my wife is cheating with me with an opossum, making me contract a rare amoeba that can only be cured by injecting my spinal cord with pastrami?
Best we can do is have your doctor cripplingly addicted to vicodin
sigh
. . . Fine.
shrugs
HMO, what can ya do?
Have you tried getting more vitamin d?
What did you just call them??
getaloada this fancy pants with his primary care physician
In the US medical system, the people are represented by two separate but equally important groups: the HMO’s, who perpetrate crime, and the pharmaceutical companies that profit from it. These are their stories.
DUN DUNN
I’d watch that show.
The craziest thing that demonstrates how shitty our healthcare system is, is that they made a goddamn movie 25 years ago about a guy holding people hostage in a children’s hospital at gunpoint to get his child a surgery when payment was denied and nobody found that premise outlandish.
The movie was generally underrated, sadly.
Did you sit down and watch the whole movie and not just the dramatic moments as YouTube clips? Outside of a few good Denzel moments, the movie was just awful in terms of dialogue, pacing, and blunt ‘foreshadowing’
Yea message was important movie was meh
John Q was not a good film.
Or if you’re a woman, they won’t bother trying and tell you you’re imagining things. Because a medical degree can’t cure being a jackass.
You have sudden onset chest pains and lethargy? Well I see your boobs are nicely sized but the rest of you could lose weight, I prescribe you with diet and exercise and diagnose you with anxiety because you thought you needed to come in. I can prescribe you both control if you continue to be anxious.
I believe the hospital in House was also a college and the cases were for study purposes. Patients getting treated was just a side effect of the experimentation…
And there was an oft-maligned “clinic” where stupid people would go to be harassed by House when he was being punished with working a shift there.
Yes. Basically, doctor House had enough of a reputation to justify having a whole team.
Nichojou?
I haven’t seen it (don’t watch almost any anime), but I tracked it down. Here’s the link timed to the start of the conversation: Azumanga Daioh Episode 4 Subbed - Pool Pool Pool (HQ)
Oh thanks!
I lost 80 pounds and my stomach still hurts a ton when ever I eat, what’s the next step doctor?
Doc: *surprised Pikachu face *
“Uhh cigarettes are bad for you?”
I was told by a doctor at 12 that I should never drink soda, caffeine, alcohol, or smoke to try to reduce stomach pain.
Also I’m a male so it can’t be period pains or pregnancy.
Haha oh yeah and I was in character responding to your fake useless doctor.
The things lazy doctors always wanna blame: Weight Pregnancy Period Smoking Lack of sleep Stress
The last one is fun, because how do you argue you’re not stressed? I can prove I’m not the other ones. But I’m here for the 4th time this year, I spent all last weekend vomiting after following the laid out diet perfectly, yes, yes I’m stressed!
I’m just playing off the fact that no matter what your problem is doctors will always tell you to stop smoking.
Broke your arm? Stop smoking.
Etc etcIt’s really fucking shit honestly, I’ve left doctors over that.
Yes, I know I need to quit smoking, but that’s an entirely separate issue from whatever the fuck is causing my foot to swell up like a balloon
I know what you say is true in your case.
But it is unfortunatly not that uncommon that people have to amputate a leg or 2 due to complications from smoking.
Fuck off.
Sounds like you need a poop transplant
… I mean, have you tried diet, exercise, and sleeping more? For more than a week or two?
Outside of a drama TV show where a 1 in a billion case shows up once a week, that’s usually a good start.
Not sure if you’re in community with many women or POC that feel comfortable speaking to you about these things, but VERY basic issues aren’t even being looked into. PCOS and cancer are two common ones. Things can vary place to place, but it seems like a pretty universal experience in my circles.
That is a very good point.
I mean I’m not a woman or PoC and I still get that same advice from doctors.
And as someone that’s worked in healthcare before, a lot, if not most, of what people go to doctors for is trivial or psychosomatic, so if they did a full range of tests for everyone that says they get headaches, then people with genuine conditions would be in an even worse place as they need to wait for resources to free up.
I did, it made my condition worse, thanks.
I sincerely doubt that, but if you’d like to elaborate I’ll listen.
They made a top level comment about a previously-unknown heart defect. Diet and exercise doesn’t fix a hole in the heart
Did they post anything to support that claim?
Diet and exercise can fix most “holes in the heart”. Even if they are the 0.01%, that doesn’t change my message for every single other person.
My previous misdiagnosis put me on meds that hid my symptoms and covid had my doctor’s office telling us that if we had no concerns, to not come in. By the time my symptoms began to show even with the meds, my heart was the size of a football (gridiron football, not association football) and required a transplant. Any increased effort made me nearly pass out.
I get where you’re coming from, MOST OF THE TIME diet and exercise are better than not. My circumstances were pretty atypical too, but lets not act like telling anyone that walks into a hospital just needs to jog their ailments away is the way to go. A lot of doctors would do well to try just a little harder, it likely would have saved me from needing to wait for another person to die to be able to continue to live.
I’m very sorry that happened to you. My problem was with your phrasing. As I’m sure you know: eating better, working out, and sleeping more did not make your condition worse. I interpreted that as what you claimed.
You were a victim of malpractice and negligence, not living a more healthy life.
Yeah, I know that. I just bristle at the thought of being told to lose weight instead of actually getting the help I needed. I don’t ACTUALLY think that stuff made me worse off. It was mostly the look on the doctor’s face when I told him I WAS working out and eating better, and he laughed in my face because I was gaining weight. Too bad I was retaining fluids… There’s a lot more to the story, but I don’t care to get into it.
Can you tell I’m a bit salty? Sorry for the trauma dump.
Did they post anything to support that claim?
What do you want, their medical records? Their doctor’s phone number?
Yes, if someone claimed that diet, exercise, and such had actively harmed them, I would want medical records to back that up.
That wasn’t what happened, and I understand that now.
Why should anyone show you their private medical records? Who do you think you are?
I don’t know what their situation is like, but with ME/CFS, for example, anything more than light exercises will actively make things worse: https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Exercise
My, at the time unknown, genetic heart defect was treated with “lose weight, fatty.”
My, at the time unknown degenerative collagen coding defect was also treated as “lose weight fatty”, I lost weight, without even trying, because it turns out collagen is an important tissue structure in a functional digestive system. I lost weight too fast, I lost a lot of lean muscle as well as fat.
Turns out muscle is important for holding your joints together if you don’t have quality collagen to do that job.
Suddenly the real cause of my symptoms was evident, but I never got an apology for years of misdiagnosis and being blamed for my own illness.
Fun fact, one of the many things I was told to do as part of proper treatment was gain weight! (albeit, muscle weight)
Now I’m starting to get cardiopulmonary symptoms, which makes sense, your heart and lungs also have collagen. I don’t have a specialist at the moment, and recently had to find a new GP because my old GP said I need to “exercise more” to prevent my new symptoms… Even though my physical therapist says my level of activity is more than enough and if my lungs aren’t physically structured properly, no amount of cardio workouts will help me breathe properly.
Binging Chubbyemu vids last night sure makes it seem like that’s not exactly true… There are far too many that begin with “presenting to the ER visibly fucked, the doctor just tells them it’s anxiety and to stop being a little bitch about it. But it wasn’t anxiety and they were not, in fact, a little bitch.”
You forgot the inflection. “Pre👆🏻SENting to the emergency room…”
It’s probably lupus anyway.
Just the one time, I think.
Yep
I had, probably still have, a weird medical ‘condition’ that US military doctors and British doctors couldn’t figure out. Would have been neat to have a team of smarty pants working on the case.
At least in the US they exist. They’re called functional medicine doctors. They’ll charge a ton and they don’t accept insurance, but they’ll typically keep at your issue until they figure out what it is and have some sort of treatment recommendations.
Don’t forget “you’re over 30, your body just does that now”
Bit of an ignorant take honestly. US medical system is horrible but we absolutely have some of the finest and most advanced teaching hospitals and medical research centers in the world if you’re fortunate enough to end up in their care. Mayo clinic, Cleveland Clinic, Massachusetts General, UCLA Health, UC Davis Medical Center, Johns Hopkins Medical Center, Mount Sinai Hospital, the list goes on.
House MD takes place in a fictitious teaching hospital in Princeton, NJ, of Princeton University fame. It is an extremely wealthy area and the reputation and prestige of the hospital is going to be far more important than what the patient can pay.
Also though, no hospital can legally refuse care if you aren’t stable, they might just not do much for you other than stabilize you enough to discharge you so you can die somewhere else.
It was never presented as representing a typical patient experience.
He did have quite a few patients who very, very clearly couldn’t afford what a hospital would charge to put up with his bullshit.
See my post above about the Mayo Clinic. I recently got back from there. House it was not.
