A North Texas man has filed a class action lawsuit against Cinemark, claiming the movie theater chain is lying to customers about the size of its drinks.
Shane Waldrop claims that Cinemark’s 24 ounce cups can only hold 22 ounces of liquid, according to the lawsuit filed in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas.
On Feb. 14, Waldrop went to the Cinemark in Grapevine and purchased the 20 ounce and 24 ounce draft beer.
He noticed the 24 ounce cup did not appear to be big enough to hold 4 more ounces of liquid.
Waldrop took the empty container home and measured how much it could hold, discovering it only held 22 ounces.
Waldrop and his legal team says the movie theater chain is taking part in “deceptive” and “otherwise improper” business practices that violate state and federal laws about misbranding.
“This is especially misleading because the 24 oz drink should provide a deal for consumers over the 20 oz drink’s price: $0.37 per ounce vs. $0.39 per ounce. But due to the actual volume of 22 oz available in the ‘24 oz’ drink, the price is $0.40 per ounce making the larger drink more expensive per ounce, which is not a deal at all,” reads the lawsuit.
I totally approve of these types of lawsuits.
I do too, but I wonder what kind of mental problem that guy has to invest money in lawyer and court fees, plus tons of personal time, to get this going.
The mental illness known as “tired of everyone getting fucked with no recourse”
He appears to have some kind of backbone
That’s the primary feature of texans. It’s so big it actually fills most of the cranium.
I’d rather be courageous than smart
Yes, the world needs more knuckle-dragging grunts to take advantage of.
I should ask my psychologist if she can help me get rid of that feeling without focusing on just the symptoms.
i wonder what kind of mental illness some already rich bigwig has to have to defraud even our fucking soda
None, these types of cases barely ever go to trial, they will end with a settlement of which the lawyers will take a portion as compensation.
Yup lawyers who take these kinds of cases that are easy wins, do it on contingency. If they don’t think you have a good case they tell you, and then charge you hourly.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
I’m missing understanding some things here, but how much is the case about to handout in money? And shouldn’t the guy here split it between himself and lawyers?
Depends on what the guy and the cinema agree upon to make this go away. Usually the lawyers will take 30-40% of a settlement.
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Everything the cinema did can be considered fraud and false advertising. Potentially millions if they play it right.
The lawyer probably took the case on a contingent basis (doesn’t get paid unless he wins), and the dude will probably get a fat check. That’s not a mental problem, that’s cashing in big on a corporate lie he discovered.
a fat check.
idk how much he’ll actually get considering his damages are a couple ounces of beer.
As a Class Action lawsuit, it is a couple ounces of beer across every person who has ordered a 24oz. Could be pretty lucrative
each member of the class is gonna get the cash value of 2 oz beer * number of short beers they bought * .6 (assuming 40% attorneys fees). Nobody’s retiring off this money.
Pretty lucrative for the lawyers. Each person who has ordered a beer in the past few years will get a check in the mail for 3¢, and a coupon for a free beer next time they go.
I dunno, standards? Principles?
Sometimes it’s about that, not personal gain
Isn’t it fucked up that expecting what you paid for has left people asking what mental problems he has? That’s how far we’ve fallen.
One of the many symptoms of autism is having a very strong sense of justice and demanding fairness in all things, sometimes to an obsessive degree. He’s probably just one of us.
L take, not everyone is autistic.
I don’t think the “us” in that furrie’s statement is inclusive of everyone
Not everyone would spend the money and time to sue a business over 2 ounces of liquid, either.
Working on contigent. The guy gets a large payout and the lawyers take a percentage.
large? That’s not how class action works at all.
Large overall, not saying anything about the amount per person.
The mental problem of wanting to earn a lot of money in a lawsuit. Mans gonna get three, maybe even four bucks outta this
I should cover the missing 2 oz he didn’t get in his beer
I mean I joke but it’s not about the money he will earn, it’s about the money Cinemark will lose.
i guess a dash of autism.
If anything this is a good example of how society would be worse off if everyone were neurotypical
that or our hero is just bored and petty as fuck!
L take, not everyone is autistic.
that or our hero is just bored and petty as fuck!
Alcoholism
Yes, having a drink while out and about having a good time is definitely a sign of alcoholism…
Unfortunately I’m seeing far too often younger people think that having a single beer makes you an alcoholic.
Having enough that you’re min-maxing the number of cents per unit of ethanol might be
Something tells me you’d be far less mocking about it if it was you getting sold something, and not getting the full amount.
Oh, I wasn’t mocking.
What a puritanical douche
No, it just takes one to know one.
I’m still fascinated that “calibrated” glasses are not more common. In Germany, you won’t get any beer without any markings where the volume is indicated.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Füllstrich#/media/Datei%3AWeizenbier.jpg
The US is a wild west of suggestions masquerading as regulations. If your ledger doesn’t have room for the decimals places needed to record the fine, it’s not a fine.
Some US states have some sort of department of weights and measures. I’ve contacted mine before about such issues and they take them very seriously, sending out an inspection team to test the claim. What they can do to enforce things depends on the state, though.
Calibrated glasses are very on-brand for Germany.
They are and are actually enforced by the EU: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32004L0022
EU, I belive in you!
They’re such a good idea we’ve even kept them after Brexit.
Because capitalism…
The free markets will figure it out!
Yes! Do ISPs next!
Waldrop took the empty container home and measured how much it could hold, discovering it only held 22 ounces.
Bro really pulled out the scientific instruments and everything 😭
Yes, scientific instruments like measuring cups
i’mjusttryingtobefunny TwT
At least you tried 😊
In Canada a pint is a legal measurement of 20oz / 568ml
If you advertise beer on the menu as a pint, it must be at least 19.5oz excluding head(allowable margin of error)
What happens though is countless places advertise a pint, and then give you something like 16-18oz which is against the law.
It’s gets harder tell what you’re getting as well when they serve in non standard pint glasses, or glasses without a pint mark.
bring your own pint glass. and a lawyer to every bar you go to. bam ez money
Pay for your law degree this way then be the lawyer to save on costs! Travel the country for free indefinitely!
Ah, so that’s what the 4th Littlest Hobo remake is going to be like.
So the legal requirement in Canada is not an actual pint?
An imperial pint is 20 fl oz, a US pint is 16 fl oz.
If they can’t even do the stupid units right then it’s no wonder they don’t like the sensible ones!
It’s a pint. Just not a US pint.
Is this some imperial joke I’m too metric to understand?
Imperial pints are standardized as 20fl.oz. But the US uses cups to measure pints instead of fluid ounces. In the US each pint is 2 cups, and each cup is 8fl.oz. So in the US, a pint is actually 4fl.oz smaller, because it’s measured in cups instead of fl.oz.
If this guy doesn’t get a “we salute you” ad by the beer companies, there’s no justice left in the world.
🎵 Mister every ounce of beer is precious man 🎵
If the beer gets wasted, God gets quite irate
That old thing where they stopped dispensing 24 oz of beer and some idiot decided not to buy 24 oz cups anymore to save more money.
No one will care. They will pay whatever fine, and pay whatever members of this class, and then they will keep doing the same shit.
If they keep doing the same shit I’ll sue them again, citing their previous lawsuit and any injunctive relief ordered in the previous trial when presenting my case.
They’ll just call it something different and hide the size in small print. Or they’ll increase the price so that the large is still $.40 per oz since people don’t usually do the math these days and just assume larger things are a better deal. A lot of times they aren’t anymore because companies don’t care as much about selling a lot as they do about profit on the sale due to there not being much competition with all the consolidation.
He really needed those last 2 ounces of beer
If the amount I’m being priced for is that amount and you short me? Fuck yeah. We should never be ok with not getting what we paid for. There’s too much shrinkflation and deception.
Do you really need the last 8% of the pay that you earned?
Legit question: does the FDA do a weights and measures things for restaurants?
Having owned, partly owned, or at least been very friendly with restaurant and bar owners…
…no, no they do not. Maybe they do if you end up on some radar or something, or get reported? But in general day to day and inspections, no.
In the UK, and I suspect in other countries as well, you have to use the right cups and glasses for the right drinks. So for beer you will have to use the beer glass that the brewery provide. I don’t think you can just go out and get any old cup from a shop and use that. You have to use the calibrated ones.
I’m usually against frivolous cases like this over nothing, but if he actually did measure that it’s impossible to hold 24 oz in a cup labeled that way, then he does have a good case. I think the case would be more on the supplier that provides the cups to Cinemark though, and less on the theater that’s taking the word of the supplier.
This is only frivolous if you think of it as being about 2 ounces of beer. Its not. Its about hundreds of thousands of people paying for something that they did not recieve. When you add it all up its quite a lot of stolen money! Also its absolutely Cinemark’s fault, even assuming they were given the wrong cups by the distributor (which is a bad assumption) its on Cinemark to make sure they are providing what they claim they are.
Not frivolous
What if 22oz of beer (volume) WEIGHED 24oz (mass)?
Wouldn’t this mean that beer would need to be 8% more dense than water for this to work out? Quickly searching online, it seems like beer is more like 1% more dense than water, depending on the type of beer, so not sure this is possible.
Wait, I thought ounces were weight but liquid ounces were volume, making this irrelevant?
1 fl oz (volume) of water weighs about 1 oz (weight). It varies depending on a bunch of stuff, ya know, cause imperial sucks, but I believe the standard rate is 1 fl oz weighs about 1.043 oz. So assuming beer has similar density as water, 22 fl oz would weigh somewhere around 23 oz.
(Some Google searches show that some definitions of fl oz has it as 1 fl oz = 30 ml exactly, but I’m starting to confuse myself and you know how infuriating imperial is.)
I wonder if they used to have bigger cups, changed suppliers, and didn’t bother to update the menus
That’s actually my thought, though even if it was a mistake, it had to go through multiple people before the 22oz cup made it into this guys hand. I hope he wins
I really don’t think the term “piss beer” is that literal
