Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.
This is why we need users to spread to more servers and create communities in them. If lemmy.world goes down that shouldn’t result in half of lemmyhub disappearing.
Yes! I tried with a niche topic like fallout but can’t get people to move over from the Lemmy world community.
was there already a fallout community on lemmy.world?
Yeah. Very inactive so I shouldn’t be surprised no one came to mine on sopuli.xyz
Right… I guess for me I’m not sure it’s all that productive to start multiple communities on the same topic? I dunno, maybe it’s good. If I’m looking for something specific, like, say turntables, and I search lemmy for a turntable community, I’m not sure it’d be a good thing to find 3-4 different lemmy communities on the topic. Perhaps I’m just thinking in older, outdated, reddit kind of thinking though.
Yeah I get it. My goal was since the Lemmy world community was pretty inactive if I can post more to encourage activity on mine I can make mine more active and the defacto community which helps get people off of Lemmy world.
If it were a community that is highly active on Lemmy world then I understand it doesn’t seem productive to re create active communities.
I have heard other people voice opinions that having multiple of the same communities over different instances is a good thing with how Lemmy works. I do wish we had a federated community so as people make more communities on different instances it more merges them into one so if one instance goes down the others are still keeping the community alive. But idk if that’s possible or on the Lemmy roadmap.
Did you advertise it on the New Communities community?
Where’s that? :-)
Ironic that it’s on lemmy.world lol
I did not. Forgot about that.
Also strange is that Lemmy never notified me of your message. Haven’t had that happen before I don’t think.
I’m more of a commenter and less of a poster, but I moved away from world as my primary instance last week. Part to spread the load, part to just be able to browse.
Commenting on your comment not because I expect you to have them or anything, it’s just the top comment so hopefully someone sees this. I know there’s a handful of links out there to browse instances. Are there any that can see who’s defederated with who/ which instances are federated with the most instances? I had another account on a .ml domain instance but they got purged with a bunch of others a couple of weeks ago. I use my lemmy.world account because it has the most-ish reach for finding new communities and whatnot
You can have a look at my comment here: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
Usually https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list is a good resource
Sweet, thanks!
Unless you want to see porn or troll instances, I don’t think there’s a big difference between instances except for the fact that beehaw isn’t federated with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works
Currently no, there isn’t a way to see that granular of detail. On my instance I have details about any defederated (blocked) instances. Currently there are none.
But there are pros and cons of joining smaller server. Since mine is small we don’t see a large list of communities, I make a point to go through and subscribe to a bunch everyday so my users can get the best experience. But without others doing some of the leg work it can be challenging. Bigger instances like lemmy.world have “seeded” with communities all over because of their large user base. Not only does lemmy.world have a ton of communities but their users have subscribed to communities outside the instance making it discoverable to others.
There’s a posposal for an automatic user distribution system (original post here: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726). Showing support for it would be a big help!
And it’s back up again! Kudos to the team!
Down again it seems. People seriously need to switch away from lemmy.world. Every single time it goes down so much content goes down with it. It’s annoying.
I did this early on after realizing my mistake, promptly moved to vlemmy.net which after a couple weeks went totally mia.
Moved again… It’s a toss-up though. I want an instance big enough to stay updated, and have an active community, but not turn into .world or vlemmy.
You should be safe on infosec.pub, jerry is a great admin
Here’s to hoping!! I also worked with infosec group at my previous employer a lot and really grew to appreciate that field so I felt like a good fit !
That’s great!
It’s working now. Indeed, I hope they will.
deleted by creator
Because they’re on lemdro.id as lemmy provider, not lemmy.world. That’s the @ part in the user name.
I recommend people move away from Lemmy.world. Having ~28% of Lemmy users on a single instance is not good for the health of Lemmy overall.
For those that want to move to a different instance, here is a link to Lemmy instances sorted by user count: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Is there an easy way to move all my subscriptions over?
There is a python script: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
or a program with a GUI: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim/releases
We’re not allowed to have nice things.
Thankfully, other instances are still up and allow us to talk about it.
Back in the days, when Reddit or Twitter were down, it was down for the whole userbase.
Yes, and we can do something about our own instances. Depending on your reverse proxy there’s a couple options.
Definitely!
how? I just use Sync for Lemmy and it seems like everything is down when lemmy.world is. I don’t really know how Lemmy works, or where different things I subscribe to are based.
Your account is on lemmy.world, so it fails to get any and all data. Accounts on other instances can interact with historic data.
You have to think of lemmy.world as your lemmy provider. Just like with e-mail you have your own email provider from the ISP, or gmail, or … If your own provider is down, you can’t receive or send mails, but all other people can send mails to each other. It’s the same with lemmy, but then for reading posts and send comments to that instance/provider.
Perfect. This makes sense, thank you.
Have a look at this comment: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
Nice things cost money and I don’t have it. So, checks out.
The company running lw are asking for free unpaid 150k+a year admin work.
Fuck them. Someone run this personally and start a non profit.
Lots of options besides the one instance.
It’s been this way for weeks, actually. I haven’t seen a graph of the uptime, but I’m sure one would look extremely ugly, based on my own user experience.
This right here is an alt, and despite the fact that I don’t prefer to comment from it, since I won’t necessarily check in soon to see replies, it’s seeing some heavy use.
The attacks a few weeks ago weren’t a one-off, they never stopped. It seems down maybe half the time or so?
One of the many ways we (all of Lemmy) are not quite ready for the mainstream yet, we still have basic technical/security issues to resolve. Soon, though.
88% on weekly basis https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
96.4 uptime
Isn’t it 88 based on their own status page? https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
If either of those figures is actually accurate from an end-user standpoint, then the entire downtime must be coming during my primary periods of usage.
As you’re probably based in Canada, that might be it. I’m in Europe and usually their downtime happens during our nights
Both are quite high (ex. 88% is 43 days a year, ~3hrs daily rounded up)
Those guys can’t catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?
Remember when VOAT was billed as a replacement for reddit, then it got DDoSed and spammed with CP until everyone forgot about it?
Corporate interests don’t care about doing things legally at all, if they can figure out an illegal way to get what they want.
then it got DDoSed and spammed with CP until everyone forgot about it?
You sure that’s not because it first gained popularity after Reddit banned the jailbait sub?
VOAT had a reputation of being for the reddit rejected users. The worst of the worst of #conservative.
It was not a pleasant place to lurk.
Ya, I’d been looking for a decent alternative forever. Tried to scratch the itch there but man it was bad. Just infested with neonazi pedos to the nth degree.
Yea, largely because it was constantly down from DDoS attacks when it was starting to become popular with regular users.
Probably by some ground against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.
incels
Source?
Source?
I saw a comment that mentioned there was a user that was creating tons of communities and squatting on them. That user was called out and banned and they might be behind it. But its all rumours. Does anyone have more details on this rumour?
Probably by some group against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.
Are they suffering DDOS attacks? They might need something like Cloudflare to combat this. Maybe some kind of reverse-proxy if the attack isn’t super massive.
Already running Cloudflare.
Ah shite.
“Always Online” ™️
That doesn’t really work for logged in users though, right?
The current issue is actually an ongoing DB issue. It’s not solely affecting LW.
Yes. My instance will sometime have unusual high load and it will overload the cpu unless restarted. 0.18.3 doesn’t seems to fix it, and it only affect some instance but not all. It’s hard to pinpoint what cause the loop to happen.
lemmy.world has been so unstable for that I decided to switch to another instance. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse though.
I setup my own Uptime Kuma Monitor for lemmy.world just for fun… the statistics are crazy
Oof that’s brutal. Didn’t realize it was that bad.
There’s a lot of small instances wanting to become medium/big instances and share the load, but people need to show a bit of initiative and join them. I just made this account, and here’s a list of a few other small servers with room to spare. YMMV but these all look pretty solid at a glance.
Enjoy your new instance
Thanks!
Does the colored bar on top have a measure?
I think it’s an hour but I’m not really sure. They are the most recent pings.
Its really unfortunate. Im working on setting up my own personal instance right now. Im really grateful for all the work Lemmy.world has done, but im just getting tired of not being able to use Lemmy maybe 1/8th of the time I open the app.
Just a +1 for decentralized social media. The fact that I can just set up my own instance when im not 100% happy with the one im currently on is awesome.
Right, and thats the issue. I host an instance but we only have a few users. Our instance does run very very well though because we don’t get a ton of user traffic.
Enjoy!
It was always going to happen but an instance being the defacto default for Lemmy is a bad thing.
There really needs to be a tool to help people pick an instance, but even then people would just flock to the general instances like .world anyway
I also think instances just need to have more sane urls. It sounds silly but like it or not branding does matter. Instances like beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions. Even some of my friends who I’ve tried to introduce to Lemmy are just like…“what the fuck kinda website are you making me go to?” I am not surprised that lemmy.world is big, partly because the URL actually sounds official.
We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances, better multi-instance search, and a way to migrate between instances before the masses will be okay with smaller instances.
Views that show you multiple communities would be great. Let me see both major Steam Deck communities in one view.
somthing like multi-reddit?
Sound like you should join the dev team as an idea person, I support you
beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions
They’re pretty descriptive: do you want a place to “behave”, or would you rather fling shit at each other?
This isn’t Reddit, you get to pick your experience. Can even sign up to more than one instance, each with different rules!
We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances
Apps do that, including some web app.
Search and migrations could be improved, though.
Apps do that, including some web app.
I don’t just mean grouping communities client side though. I mean super-communities that a mod or admin can curate and that other people can share and subscribe to. Out of curiosity, which apps have you been using that have this feature?
Myself and another developer are working on something we think will solve this:
OP: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726 TLDR: Automatic User Distribution
Whenever someone goes to the sign up page, for example, on Lemmy.world, we:
- look at the recommender list
- find the server that is most under capacity
- have a very large iframe with “Sign up for Lemmy (using [under capacity server here])”
- have a small “No, I want to sign up specifically on Lemmy.world” option
Would also be cool to have like a short questionnaire, like picking your class in Morrowind, but instead you end up on a German industrial metal music instance.
Does it take into account instance rules like language, moderation, or whether it’s a personal instance hosted on a raspi that may go down at any moment?
Yes! Lemmy.world (or any other big server) must manually add the-other-server to their “recommder” list. So the-other-server has to prove to Lemmy.world that they’re going to offer similar reliability.
deleted by creator
People are talking about capacity because they clearly don’t understand what’s really happening here, they think that it’s Reddit’s hug of death (that too many users are causing the site to go over capacity) when in reality it’s an attack, these outages are being caused by attackers intentionally not by a swarm of people unintentionally.
I agree capacity isn’t the cause of outages. Centralization is an issue, and capacity is a way for a server like Lemmy.world to say “I would prefer less new users”
deleted by creator
It makes sense that general purpose instances would have the most users. I’m not a programmer so while I could still register there why would I pick programmer.dev?
The bigger issue I had in picking an instance was just in understanding the differences. I think it would help if instances advertised their stance on defederation, moderation, etc… to help people make a decision (or even to see that lemmy.world may be more similar to some other instances than they might think).
multiple accounts, one macro, one micro, works wonders. i like my lemm.ee account more but lemmy.world was my gateway as it was the one advertised to me
I already do have multiple accounts, but I usually don’t use the others because I worry that I’m going to accidentally upvote things twice. Would be nice if Lemmy had a feature to exclude duplicate votes from your other accounts.
Indeed, and it seems like it’s down again
Uhh, jeepers I’m on my NSFW account because my main lemmy account is on lemmy.world. Hamburgers.
It’s getting really annoying. Is there an mobile friendly way to migrate my account from lemmy.world to lemmy.zip?
You can always have multiple accounts
I guess the issue is to importing the huge list of blocked instances to the new account
I’ll concede, that’s a legitimately useful timesaver.
Yes, exactly. Blocked and subscribed as well
Unfortunately, I don’t think there is anything on mobile yet. The best tool for this is LASIM on desktop.
Thanks! Gonna have to find some way to get to a PC or Mac.
If you’re on Android you can use Termux to run lemmy_migrate, it’s a Python script
Hello,
Hm, I’m afraid at this moment the most common solution is https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim, which requires a computer. Would you be able to get access to one at some point later?
I have access to my work MacBook. Would that work?
I’m not an expert in Rust, but I guess it should!
LASIM author here - it should! Though Mac OS X is the one platform I can’t test on myself - I can build it through Github, and everything I did should be cross-platform, but I can’t actually launch it myself to make sure everything is working fine.
Only other thing might be if their work Macbook imposes any restrictions on running arbitrary binaries from the internet - which it understandably might.
Ooh, I didn’t know about this, thank you. I’ve primarily been using kbin, but this sounds like a good tool to bookmark for the future.
Status page: https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
Lemmy.world Is down, but Lemmy as a whole is still up and running. This is why I like the fediverse
Hopefully more will join smaller instances.
Why are people attacking a msg board?
Because there’s a very small chance one of the message board users might click on a link and get scammed for money?
