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The new rules would shift most new electric water heaters to heat-pump technology, which typically uses less than half the amount of electricity that many older models use.
I know one very specific person that will be delighted by the news!
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I got my heat pump installed two weeks ago and I am LOVING it.
I had gas previously, and I hated having to organise the gas company to come and switch the bottles every few months.
200L of hot water does my family of 3 just fine.
Oh boy, here we go, Gas stove 2: Electric Boogaloo
Per the article:
There is no gas stove ban. Rather, the D.O.E.’s final energy-efficiency guidelines for gas stoves amounted to a slight tightening of older standards, and about 97 percent of models on the market already meet those standards.
Yea but your facts and logic won’t stop the right wingers from screeching about it like Biden is deploying a secret stove police force that will break into your home and steal your stove
I expect a lot of “experts” playing the “ackshually electric appliances powered by coal are worse than gas” card, ignoring the continually declining rate of coal power production globally, but especially in the US.
The ironic part is that, according to the article, 97% of gas stoves on the market already meet the updated requirements.
Isn’t anyone gonna comment that in the picture there’s a flying end of a bed on the wall??
Hmm, I couldn’t find anything about tankless heaters. I absolutely love that I never run out of hot water, especially after my wife takes her shower.
Per the actual rule:
As discussed in section II.B.3, DOE is finalizing standards for all consumer water heaters, with the exception of gas-fired instantaneous water heaters, in this Final Rule.
So there has been no change to the rules for tankless heaters.
Is that because they were already efficient or because they can’t reasonably be made more sense efficient?
I would assume both. They transfer basically all the heat generated into the water and only heat when water is being used.
We switched to an externally mounted tankless when our big ole water heater conked out. It’s way more energy efficient, but everyone has to run the water for a good minute until it kicks in and makes it through the pipes
I’ll look into a heat pump once this one dies, but running water during a drought is just wrong.
This Old House has episodes where they have a small recirculation pump to keep lines primed with warm water.
This kills the efficiency gain of not keeping a hot tank though.
Damn, I first read the headline as water haters.
I still like that headline better
Hydronic acid is deadly.
Good, now do the same for AI datacenters and cryptomining.
Tankless is just a good idea for everybody.
Care to elaborate? Tankless electric is way less efficient than heat pump storage, and requires like 120 amps. It’s terrible. Tankless gas is, well gas, so that’s not going to work if you want to stop emitting carbon.